Multi-Layer Map Detection

[RV-007]

If anyone played Marathon with its AlephOne engine, you know that the map feature is not so great. If you get stuck in a puzzle with many floors, the map get garbled. For most doom maps, walking up/down to another floor either teleports to be new room. I know that this suggestion would be very difficult b/c a floor can account as a layer. I don't expect this suggestion to work out, but it's just an idea.

[Gez]

If anyone played Marathon with its AlephOne engine, you know that the map feature is not so great.

Then why suggest it? If it is even what you are suggesting?

If you get stuck in a puzzle with many floors, the map get garbled.

Garbled? Like, it glitches? It's a bug then.

For most doom maps, walking up/down to another floor either teleports to be new room.

Or what? Either teleport or what?

Also, no. Plenty of room-over-room methods exist. Heck, ZDoom has [wiki]3D floors[/wiki], [wiki]portals[/wiki], and [wiki]3D middle textures[/wiki].

I know that this suggestion would be very difficult b/c a floor can account as a layer.

What does "accounting as a layer" even mean?

I don't expect this suggestion to work out,

Indeed.

but it's just an idea.

Could you explain what that idea is?

[Hellser]

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Welcome to Descent. A garbled mishmash of a automap trying to show a 3D environment via DooM Automap style.

Also, people needs to realize. DooM is old. Think what Randy and Graf has to go through to code for a game that's akin to an unfair game of 52 card pickup.

Also.. if a floor accounts to as a layer. I feel bad for maps that have stairs.. This means you have to account to EVERY map pixel from the positives to the negatives and put them in a what.. A slider bar? Nah.

[RV-007]

That's what I'm talking about, like those maps in the Descent game. It's horrible. I don't know how to solve this problem, but I just want to point out that such maps hurts my brain.

[wildweasel]

I think the best solution is to have a map like the first couple of Turok games, where the lines representing the walls/floors/etc become lighter if they are closely aligned with the player's current Z axis, and darker if they're far above/below the player.

[Kate]

Eternity does something like that with its' portals; if portals connect two sections of the map, it'll display the lines as they would be arranged in 3D space - with the levels above/below your current levels greyed out like they'd appear if you had an automap powerup

[Gez]

Turn on the textured automap. You'll see that you'll only see the textures of the 3D floors that are below your eye level.

[RV-007]

Is the textured automap is on v.2.6.0? I think it is.