Adding things to Doombuilder

[Blue Shadow]

The Decorate entry doesn't show on the list if you're using the doom-format, thus the custom actors you load won't show. You still can use those actors in that map format, though.

If your map is in doom-format and you want it to be in hexen-format, then it's recommended to use a map converter instead. One converter you can try is this.

[cq75]

Instead of using a map converter, just open two instances of doombuilder;

one of them has the map you want to convert opened, and in the other one, create a new map in the format you want to convert to. Select the entire map you want to convert, including things, and copy/paste it into the other instance.

It is likely that your linedef actions will need to be redone, but everything else should be intact. UDMF and Hexen format both have many more features than Doom, I recommend UDMF.

[NeuralStunner]

[Explanation of using copy-paste across DB2 instances]

Terrible advice. This will usually crash DB2. There are utilities specifically for converting Doom format maps to newer formats:

[wiki=ZWADCONV]ZWadConv[/wiki] turns a Doom ormat map into a Hexen format one.

[wiki]UDMFConvert[/wiki] turns a binary (Doom/Hexen format) map into a UDMF one.

[HellCattX]

Whats the Major difference between Hexen and UDMF? what one is better to use, lol.

[cq75]

[Explanation of using copy-paste across DB2 instances]

Terrible advice. This will usually crash DB2. There are utilities specifically for converting Doom format maps to newer formats:

[wiki=ZWADCONV]ZWadConv[/wiki] turns a Doom ormat map into a Hexen format one.

[wiki]UDMFConvert[/wiki] turns a binary (Doom/Hexen format) map into a UDMF one.

I've done it over 20 times, and I have never crashed Doombuilder [2] once, even when I was converting Legacy and Doom maps to zdoom/Skulltag in UDMF, and even if the map was large and extremely detailed. I have also never found any adverse side effects within the maps, other than having to change some linedef actions, but that's to be expected. Those programs you've mentioned, by contrast, fail to work without explanation, and are much less convenient to use.

UDMF has a lot more options you can choose; the feature I use most frequently is the ability to assign walkable midtexture and transparency without using linedef actions, and the ability to align floor and ceiling textures using sector properties. You can also specify the brightness of floor and ceilings, if for example you had a light that could not reach the ceiling of a given room.

[NeuralStunner]

I'm just passing along something stated numerous times by community seniors (like Gez), and the crashy eperiences of myself and several others.

[Nash]

Yeah seriously, copy/pasting is clunky, there proper tools written to do the job efficiently.

[disposable_username2]

I've done it over 20 times, and I have never crashed Doombuilder [2] once, even when I was converting Legacy and Doom maps to zdoom/Skulltag in UDMF, and even if the map was large and extremely detailed. I have also never found any adverse side effects within the maps, other than having to change some linedef actions, but that's to be expected.

Heh. And when using proper converters, it's NOT to be expected. If you want to suffer, then please, copy-paste all you want.

[disposable_username2]

Those programs you've mentioned, by contrast, fail to work without explanation,

Got an example map which UDMFConvert fails to convert?

and are much less convenient to use.

And fixing up the linedef types is convenient? Or you still haven't learned how to use command-line programs? cmd.exe is undoubtely a piece of junk (no tab completion) but this doesn't mean that better tools don't exist.

[HellCattX]

I tried both Methods here, and cq75's Is the easiest and fastest. By the time i get the proper names and commands for the dos utilities, I've converted my map and fixed the errors with his method. Also got my custom key to work too!

[cq75]

Yeah seriously, copy/pasting is clunky, there proper tools written to do the job efficiently.

1. Enter sector mode
2. Zoom out
3. Select the entire map by dragging a box around it
4. Enter things mode
5. Select the entire map again, the same way
6. Hit E
7. Hit Ctrl-C
8. Hit Ctrl-V
9. Fix Linedef actions as necessary

I can't beat that in speed with those tools

I've done it over 20 times, and I have never crashed Doombuilder [2] once, even when I was converting Legacy and Doom maps to zdoom/Skulltag in UDMF, and even if the map was large and extremely detailed. I have also never found any adverse side effects within the maps, other than having to change some linedef actions, but that's to be expected.

Heh. And when using proper converters, it's NOT to be expected. If you want to suffer, then please, copy-paste all you want.

I've used one of those; it still required me to fix up the linedef actions, just as if I copy/pasted it from DB. Since I generally convert maps from Legacy, I doubt either of these configs would be able to find conversions.

Even if it was capable of converting linedef actions automatically, I am also converting from one IWAD to another, so there is good reason for me to be looking through the map anyway, to spot texture problems.

Those programs you've mentioned, by contrast, fail to work without explanation,

Got an example map which UDMFConvert fails to convert?

I didn't hold on to it, I used DoomBulder 2 after that and never used those tools again.

And fixing up the linedef types is convenient? Or you still haven't learned how to use command-line programs? cmd.exe is undoubtely a piece of junk (no tab completion) but this doesn't mean that better tools don't exist.

Better tools... in the time it takes me to type out the command line parameters, copy the files into the directory, and make a new wad file, and put the map information in the wad, I could have copy/pasted, saved, and converted the map. I could automate it and make a batch file, but even then, I would have a difficult time making it faster.