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Hexen Player bug

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This bug only happens when you choose Parias the cleric or Daedolon the mage in Hexen. If you go to player setup and choose red, which is their default color, save the game, then quit and load the saved game, their red color will change to BLUE! replacing Parias with Traductus the pope and replacing Daedolon with Menelkir the archmage! Also when you use the code "summon" "doomplayer" (Doomguy) or "hereticplayer" (Corvus) they will appear green which is the color of them, if you summon "FighterPlayer" (Baratus) it will appear gold, which is also his default color, but if you summon "ClericPlayer" (Parias) or "MagePLayer"(Daedolon) they will appear BLUE!!! while their real color is RED!!! Also if you add bots with the Cleric and the MAge classes they will be blue. Although this is not a fatal bug, this one must be a priority to fix in the next version of Zdoom!
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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This isn't a bug. The player graphics are part of the user's configuration, not stored in a save. You appear blue because you probably changed your color settings back to blue at some point.
Cyberdoomer wrote:Although this is not a fatal bug, this one must be a priority to fix in the next version of Zdoom!
A minor issue like this is hardly a "priority to fix", and saying such things (and sprinkling exclamation marks everywhere) makes you sound very, very silly.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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[quote="Xaser"]This isn't a bug. The player graphics are part of the user's configuration, not stored in a save. You appear blue because you probably changed your color settings back to blue at some point.

What did you read at least? or are you stupid?Try it yourself, I don't appear blue because I changed the color, select red and don't change the config, save the game, quit, then load the game, the cleric or mage will be blue, also you say this is not important? you gotta be kidding me, I start a new game with Parias the cleric, the I save the game, quit, load and guess what? now Im playing with Traductus the pope, wich is the enemy of Parias, or start playing with Daedolon and finish playing with Menelkir? it's like playing Heretic with D'sparil!!! or DOOM with the Cyberdemon!!!
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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  • Xaser is far from stupid.
  • The mage and cleric sprites are blue.
  • You really need to sort out your priorities.
  • Do you change identity when you wear a different color shirt?
  • You need to calm down.
  • It's possible you put ZDoom somewhere that it can't save to its config file.
  • Grow up.
  • There are many much more important things to fix, assuming there even is a bug here.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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NeuralStunner wrote:
  • Xaser is far from stupid.
  • The mage and cleric sprites are blue.
  • You really need to sort out your priorities.
  • Do you change identity when you wear a different color shirt?
  • You need to calm down.
  • It's possible you put ZDoom somewhere that it can't save to its config file.
  • Grow up.
  • There are many much more important things to fix, assuming there even is a bug here.
I discovered the problem:
Player.ColorSet 0, "Blue", 146, 163, 161
Player.ColorSetFile 1, "Red", "TRANTBL7", 0xB3
Player.ColorSetFile 2, "Gold", "TRANTBL8", 0x8C
Player.ColorSetFile 3, "Dull Green", "TRANTBL9", 0x41
Player.ColorSetFile 4, "Green", "TRANTBLA", 0xC9
Player.ColorSetFile 5, "Gray", "TRANTBLB", 0x30
Player.ColorSetFile 6, "Brown", "TRANTBLC", 0x72
Player.ColorSetFile 7, "Purple", "TRANTBLD", 0xEE

As we can see here for both Cleric and Mage Player the color set 0 is Blue, and this is causing the bug, if anyone know how to modify this please tell me I will fix it myself, also you are probably blind or [censored word] because when you are selecting the player class in Hexen you can clearly see both Parias the cleric and Daedolon the mage sprites are red, you can check the Doom Wiki if you don't believe me, also when I make this post, I made it for intelligent people like Randy, Graf Zahl, Enjay, and cool people like them.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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Cyberdoomer wrote:As we can see here for both Cleric and Mage Player the color set 0 is Blue
That is the default color. The name is meaningless. It could be called "Llama Cream Pie" and the code line would still do nothing but define the range of colors which will be replaced by custom color selection.
Cyberdoomer wrote:also you are probably blind or [censored word]
I'm both capable of seeing and comprehending text, certainly you can see that.

Your self-confident unwillingness to open up a wad editor and look for yourself will be your undoing. That and dismissing out of hand any possibility of user error.

As for your final remarks, I can't even formulate a response other than derisive cachinnation.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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Lets play some "Extracting Graphics From The IWADs With Slade 3" since you don't want to seem to take this calmly and logically.

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That's right. The mage is blue. The red mage in the character selection screen is a lie -- he uses a different set of graphics, which are red.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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NeuralStunner wrote:
Cyberdoomer wrote:As we can see here for both Cleric and Mage Player the color set 0 is Blue
That is the default color. The name is meaningless. It could be called "Llama Cream Pie" and the code line would still do nothing but define the range of colors which will be replaced by custom color selection.
Cyberdoomer wrote:also you are probably blind or [censored word]
I'm both capable of seeing and comprehending text, certainly you can see that.

Your self-confident unwillingness to open up a wad editor and look for yourself will be your undoing. That and dismissing out of hand any possibility of user error.

As for your final remarks, I can't even formulate a response other than derisive cachinnation.
The game itself show both classes being red and so the Doom Wiki, and yes I am always confident of myself, at some point I even think I could kill a horde of criminals that try to kill me with pistols, while I only have my SPAS-12 to protect myself, and I think I would kill them all and survive maybe injured but survive, yes I am very confident of myself, thank you.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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InsanityBringer wrote:Lets play some "Extracting Graphics From The IWADs With Slade 3" since you don't want to seem to take this calmly and logically.

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That's right. The mage is blue. The red mage in the character selection screen is a lie -- he uses a different set of graphics, which are red.
Now that's a good answer, so it is not a bug, but why the hell the programmers made Parias and Traductus and Daedolon and Menelkir the same?
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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Short answer:

they didn't.

Long answer:

Actually, posting a 'long answer' would be a bit superfluous since it should already be apparent based on the responses given by myself, NS, and IB. I'll just leave you with the advice that you should tone it down quite a lot or expect a very short stay.

@The Moderators: I feel like I'm backseat moderating a bit here, and I'll make a note to keep it down a bit myself if a silent report is more desirable.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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Ugh...

Bug closed for obvious reasons. I'll leave the report open for others to deal with.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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Xaser wrote:@The Moderators: I feel like I'm backseat moderating a bit here, and I'll make a note to keep it down a bit myself if a silent report is more desirable.
I dont see the problem with backseat moderation when a user comes to "report" something he thinks is a bug, claiming to be 100% right and therefore claiming that everyone who disagrees is 100% wrong, posting a completely offtopic reply to show how confident he is and how he owns a gun, and back to the topic: unwilling to even try what people suggest him to do to confirm the fact that is not a bug, not even caring to check with the vanilla game where the whole "problem" actually comes from, saying that people replying here arent smart nor cool, implying the unworthiness of the subsequent posters, and the worst part: calling "stupid" and "[censored word]" people that is actually explaining why this whole report is nothing but a misunderstanding of the "Im so damn right" guy.

So, yeah, I dont think you should tone it down in cases like this.
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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Cyberdoomer wrote:and cool people like them.
cool != intelligent.

... I'd know B-)
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Re: Hexen Player bug

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Damn, I forgot to lock this to prevent further pollution.

It's remedied now.
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