ZDoom hates my PNGs

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:43 pm

Once a graphic is read in, it doesn't matter what format it was in originally -- you should be able to use it anywhere.

Currently there is no way to animate TX textures. You'll have to use traditional animation methods and leave them as textures.

Lexus Alyus · Post by **Lexus Alyus** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:58 pm

Sooo, if I get really board I can convert all of my sprites, GFX and textures to PNG's and free up a shit load of space in my wad? Then my next step would be to OGGulise the SFX thus taking my wads size down considerably!

The only problem is that everytime I extract a WAV file from Doom and try to play it in windows it doesn't play... I don't undertstand because most Wavfiles will play, but anything from Doom won't... also, what's stranger is that when I put this files in Sound Forge the meters at the side read like it's playing the file... but I still can't hear it. On checking the meters in my Sound Cards control panel it doesn't read anything... I'm thinking that the problem is either my sound card doesn't like 8 bit sounds at 11khz sample rate or it's a problem with Windows 2K... I'm gonna run a few more tests because this is a sereouse problem...

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:49 pm

XWE seems to have a bug that kills WAVfiles as it extracts them, particularly if you try to extract multiple sounds at once.

Don't convert your SFX to OGG unless they're reasonably long (like the Doom 2 endboss wakeup sound). You won't save any space and the effect will sound worse. OGG is meant more for music than sound effects.

TOGoS · Post by **TOGoS** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:29 pm

HotWax wrote:Currently there is no way to animate TX textures. You'll have to use traditional animation methods and leave them as textures.

What do you mean by that? You can certainly reference TX textures from ANIMDEFS (that's one of the first things I did with them). What is this 'non-traditional' animation method you imply? Just curious.

EDIT: Oh, and to answer Lexus's question about sprites, no. I tried using a TX image for a sprite and ZDoom said that it didn't have any frames or something.

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:40 pm

Okay then, I stand corrected.

Lexus Alyus · Post by **Lexus Alyus** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:46 am

I'm not on about using a TX image for sprites, I'm on about using PNG's for sprites!

Is that possible?

As for compressing audio, would it be worth it using FLAC or maybe even MP3? Or should I just forget the whole idea?

Post by **Kate** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:31 pm

Lexus Alyus wrote:using PNG's for sprites! Is that possible?

ZDoom.wad holds the answer you speak... Look for the ICEC and unknown thing sprites in particular.

Oh and BTW, about that spelling problem...

Naitguolf · Post by **Naitguolf** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:16 pm

Whoa! Thanks!! A lot!! That will helpme!!!

Edit: All your base belongs to us (click on SpellCheck)

No spelling errors were found in this text.

Maybe not!

TOGoS · Post by **TOGoS** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:01 pm

Lexus Alyus wrote:I'm not on about using a TX image for sprites, I'm on about using PNG's for sprites! Is that possible?

Well, AFAIK, the only place you can put PNGs is in the TX section

Lexus Alyus · Post by **Lexus Alyus** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:49 am

Well, I'm sure that what destroyer was siggesting is that you can... and I beleive the Zdoom.wad knows all...

Stop confusing me with knowledge that you don't even know is true!

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:57 pm

As Randy has said before, image format doesn't matter so long as ZDoom understands it. Every graphic, whether patch, sprite, flat, or TX image, is read in the same way; if the image format is known, the image is read and converted to Doom format. Once the image is loaded, it doesn't matter where it's being used.

Michty · Post by **Michty** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:51 pm

TOGoS wrote:
Naitguolf wrote:ok, then we can call this... "a feature"...
Call it... "a elephant" if you wish, but that won't make it good.

Isn't that an elephant? No, frankly I don't mind and I am not trying to mock/insult ANYBODY! I just wanted an opportunity to use a quotation. That was my first one ever

.... And your grammar is probably (nay, definitely) better than mine....

Lexus Alyus · Post by **Lexus Alyus** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:13 am

Cool... now I FINALLY know the answer to this question

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Thanks

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