Decided to resume a project of mine today

Pure Hellspawn · Post by **Pure Hellspawn** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:52 pm

Speaking of Blade Night "Flame", the Aeons of Death level has 3 different ways of death for the zombieman (and some others). Normal, Gibbed, and Burned.

So I believe making multiple gibbing methods for a monster is possible.

Post by **Ryan Cordell** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:29 pm

I would've picked Areith Quadrant had I not choose to join ZDoom in my early days.

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:17 pm

Pure Hellspawn wrote:So I believe making multiple gibbing methods for a monster is possible.

A theoretically infinite number of gib deaths is possible using A_Jump and multiple sprite names.

Kinsie · Post by **Kinsie** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:30 pm

Marty Razor Kirra wrote:For the Mortal Kombat effect, you should make it so the helmet flys toward the player. That, my friend, would be awesome. I'll check out the mod once I get Doom installed...again (Yes, I own the Collector's Edition, so no need to question how I got it )

Yeah, I still need to make the monster-specific pieces for the Chaingunner, Demon/Spectre and Player.

Unknown_Assassin · Post by **Unknown_Assassin** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:43 pm

Those gore effects are simply amazing.

I certainly look forward to this project.

solarsnowfall · Post by **solarsnowfall** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:45 pm

Blade Nightflame wrote:I'm afraid that might only be done with one of ACS functions.

And that would make some systems crawl if you gibbed too many at the same time (ala Kill Monsters.)

And why exactly would running scripts slow down the game more than spawning them from DECORATE, hmmm? It's not really how you get them there, it's how many. That's the one thing that bothers me about these "Gore Mods" (which have suddenly all sprung up at once), have they been tested on maps with several thousand monsters? Regaurdless of whether you use script or not, I think you'll get some slowdown. Say your map has 100 monsters, and they all spawn 5 gib actors. You're trading off 100 for 500 actors on the map. That's not so bad, but if you have 5,000 actors you end up with 25,000, which can amount to a noticeable difference. Even if they all have planned disappearances at some point, a heavy killfest can easily get out of hand. And yes, there are plenty of maps out there that make 5,000 monsters seem quite trivial.

Kinsie · Post by **Kinsie** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:39 am

Show me a level with "several thousand" monsters that's both playable and not NUTS or a joke wad.

Take your time.

EDIT: Framerate-wise I realised the custom blood was eating the most framerate, so I made it easily disablable by commenting out a line in DECORATE. So yeah, win.

Wills · Post by **Wills** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:04 am

Hell Revealed.

Hell Revealed II.

Alien Vendetta.

Though the monstercounts don't reach into the "thousands", it's certainly enough to cause slowdown.

Post by **Jimmy** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:23 am

Wills wrote:Though the monstercounts don't reach into the "thousands", it's certainly enough to cause slowdown.

It does on HMP on HR2 MAP32, tho.

Post by **Ryan Cordell** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:33 am

Kinsie wrote:EDIT: Framerate-wise I realised the custom blood was eating the most framerate, so I made it easily disablable by commenting out a line in DECORATE. So yeah, win.

Which one's? Yours or mine?

Unknown_Assassin · Post by **Unknown_Assassin** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:14 pm

Wills wrote:Hell Revealed.

Hell Revealed II.

Alien Vendetta.

Though the monstercounts don't reach into the "thousands", it's certainly enough to cause slowdown.

Actually...there are some levels that have up to the thousands such as Alien Vendetta Level 24 and 25.

None of them reached to two thousand though.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:26 pm

5000 odd gib actors from monsters is enough though

Hell, even Warpzone would be too much with this wad, and probably much smaller maps as well.

Post by **Apothem** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:42 pm

Just make sure the gibs/blood splats don't lag too much. Good way to check this is on map 06 on UV, activate the squisher on the spider mastermind.

Otherwise, this looks very promising.

Nightmare Doom · Post by **Nightmare Doom** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:17 pm

I hope this mod supports Nash's gore mod aswell... (For gore hounds)

Pure Hellspawn · Post by **Pure Hellspawn** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:23 pm

Try Deus Vult or Holy Hell. Deus Vult level 5 has about 3,000 monsters. Holy Hell level 5 has exactly 20,000 monsters. Holy Hell Level 1 alone has 6,767, level 2 has 5,035, level 3 has 3,464, and level 4 has 4,778. Level 5 is just levels 1 through 4 combined for both DV and HH.