[KDiZD] Community Information Thread (Update Page 18)

Siggi · Post by **Siggi** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:06 pm

The maps which gave me any form of insperation were actualy the ZDoom Community map and Deus Vult for some reason.

I'll have a look at this though, I've been trying to get all the classics for refference.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:15 pm

I think all this roleplaying's getting to my head or something. wtf was I on when I wrote this?

Anyway, thanks Enjay, dl's the wad, and I'll check it out...

...whenever, I guess

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:46 am

Yes, the v0.2 pre-release is available there. I'm not sure where you'd find v0.1, but 0.2 is better anyway. ZDoom runs it very well, but to get the 100% intended experience it requires MBF.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:08 am

I'll have a looksie at it some time. Probably after I've finished SSD and making scourge. Oh yeah, what's MBF?

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:09 am

Marine's Best Friend.

Use PrBoom with -complevel 7.

Post by **TheDarkArchon** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:09 am

Old DOS port by Lee Killough. Is noted for the best friendly AI out of all the Doom ports.

Kristus · Post by **Kristus** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:10 am

Risen wrote:Yes, the v0.2 pre-release is available there. I'm not sure where you'd find v0.1, but 0.2 is better anyway. ZDoom runs it very well, but to get the 100% intended experience it requires MBF.

I suggest Eternity. Seeing as it's based on SMMU wich is based on MBF.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:12 am

So basically any friendly AI in this wad may not function as well as intended with just ZDoom? Oh well, I'll live.

Post by **NiGHTMARE** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:17 am

MBF has a few other features not implemented/implemented differently in ZDoom.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:20 am

TheDarkArchon wrote:Old DOS port by Lee Killough. Is noted for the best friendly AI out of all the Doom ports.

If the few minor bugs got fixed (most importantly the target selection. I already added some of MBF's code to .96x to address this.) ZDoom's friendly AI would come quite close. MBF's friendly AI had some issues I never liked as well so in the end it's a matter of preference.

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:35 am

TR didn't use friendlies, but it did take advantage of some other features that MBF had.

MBF used an OPTIONS lump to force specific behaviors that were intended for the map. In ZDoom some of these can be turned on and off with compatability options, and possibly let the user unknowingly break something.

ZDoom also disable the use of an altered PLAYPAL/COLORMAP for a number of states. MBF will preserve that behavior.

I can't remember if there's anything further, and I never tested it with the other ports mentioned here.

Though undocumented for a long time (and possibly even now, I'm not sure), ZDoom actually does support MBF's multiple sky method, so the transparent skylight effects (one of my favorites of the mod, and also one I had not seen elsewhere) will still work fine in ZDoom.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:43 am

Risen wrote: Though undocumented for a long time (and possibly even now, I'm not sure),

http://www.zdoom.org/wiki/index.php?title=Static_Init

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:47 am

Oh, one more thing. If you play it with ZDoom, jumping isn't allowed.

Ak-01 · Post by **Ak-01** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:28 pm

OMFG Cant wait to see that stuff! Tormentor on top!!!

Bashe · Post by **Bashe** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:32 pm

I wonder if "hey, maybe I shouldn't reply to this thread, it's two months old" goes through someone's head before they press "submit."