change class cheat for hexen

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signofzeta wrote:Beware that some other person other than me may come asking this shadowcaster question.
OK, that's fine. Unless something happens, they'll get the same answer.
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randy wrote:No, I already said I won't put it in because the result isn't worth the effort.
I don't give a shit about cheats, but IMO the ability to change class in game would be quite useful. For mods that is. You'd just need to have someone make it. But considering all the mods being made for zdoom, I doub't it'd take long for anyone to come up with the idea to ripp off shadowcaster. Or maybe make something original from it.
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signofzeta has made a good choice by giving up, though he was WAY too late, he'd lost ages ago, then started sulking. He's yet to stop by the sounds of things :D
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I gave up when I posted in the ravengames forums that if the shadowcaster should be in the original hexen in the first place. He said that the cheat is for testing purposes and is not meant to be a cheat.
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Cheats aren't really supposed to be at all, they are just for testing, not helping the less able gamers out there.
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I just said that. I already finished the game anyway. I want to TEST out some stuff using zdoom's sick technologies. Plus I want to TEST using each class on heresiarch in his seminary without doing all the puzzles.
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Post by Phobus »

Why don't you get the class you want and just no-clip your way there? You might as well use give all as well, then you wouldn't be unequipped or have to do all of the puzzles and still have the right character.
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I did that once but when I use give all, I will get all the unwanted items and stuff, but I wouldn't have the right inventories that I had before as when I was another class. I guess I can give every single item I had before but that will take a long time. No clipping does not work because I might miss some triggers.
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Post by Xaser »

Actually, if you want the right inventories, then the switch classes cheat won't fill that position either. Due to the fact that there are different item placements for each character, changing the class in the middle of the game will not give you the correct inventory stuff. So therefore, if you use that cheat, then it won't be the same as playing all the way through the game.

Cheat proven 110% worthless. :P
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This thread needs to DIE ASAP!
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OMG SHOCKING REVELATION #3!!!!!!!11111oneone
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Huh? Why is this thread not locked? It lost all meaningful discussion a page ago.
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If cleric has wraithverge then mage has bloodscourge as for weapons 2 and 3 if change class cheat was executed. I just want to test out the heresiarch battle at exact spot and exact time without doing the whole hub all over again. It does not matter if there are no mage weapons but only cleric weapons.

Yes it is 110% worthless when playing the game but >110% useful if testing something out without trying to restart the whole hub and do all these wierd stuff. As some guys at the raven forums said, that cheat is for testing purposes so it has a purpose.

Zdoom is unique and it does not allow me to test out anything with the stuff that zdoom has but other ports do not by not including this cheat. Once I am done the battle, I will exit the game and reload my cleric saved file and shadowcaster it to the fighter and restart the battle.

I already have each of fighter cleric mage saved right before the battle but not for zdoom so I have to restart everything and I only have cleric saved. I don't want to do the whole hub over again just to get the right character at that exact spot.
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Post by Kles »

I think that from the time you started this argument until now, you could have done the battle as every single class about three times by now.
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Post by signofzeta »

I dunno but some hexen fans prefer to use zdoom because of all that cool editing stuff and having sound and computer does not have opengl They also prefer to have the cheat. I guess I can give up since Randy cannot do anything about it. Oh well. I guess I don't need it anyway since I don't play the game anymore. Someone who said that was right. I was wrong. I was desperate to use that cheat.
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