Colourful Hell 1.01 now with zandro friendly version included

[bowserknight]

Thank you so much for using my map! I'll be taking a look at the tournament in a few hours, good stuff anyways. The laziness / motivationlessness (is that even a word?) has been very strong in a lot of us lately, I guess. I got a feeling the white Cyberdemon or white Mancubus are gonna be some of the top players here.

Also I know Hege Cactus might be very busy at the moment but I'm still hyped to see this mod finished some day, no matter how long it takes.


In case anyone's interested in this test map, I made a seperate thread for it:

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74317

[whatup876]

Am i the only one seeing that the current download link does not work?
Saying this because someone else noticed first before i checked.

Dropbox says "pk3 files are supported but something went wrong"

[Rowsol]

Am i the only one seeing that the current download link does not work?
Saying this because someone else noticed first before i checked.

Dropbox says "pk3 files are supported but something went wrong"

Click the arrow at the top left and choose download.

[whatup876]

Okay, i just didn't notice oops so false alarm.

[tuintje]

does anyone know what the option ex bosses does? I can't find any information anywhere. I've searched the entire post.

Loving the mod btw

[Sgt. Ham]

does anyone know what the option ex bosses does? I can't find any information anywhere. I've searched the entire post.

Loving the mod btw

EX Bosses are even stronger versions of Black/White enemies. They’re basically on the level of Cheap MUGEN characters or bosses in fangames of indie RPGs to give you an idea. If you see an additional message appear at the top of your screen about a “chill running down your spine,” you better be ready. They’re sick and the only cure is PillowBlaster.

[fakemai]

More or less as he says, some of the black/white tier enemies can occasionally come in a nastier variant, that's what they are and that's what the setting controls. For example the black zombieguy is "Player 9" who is fairly tough with rockets and plasma, but his EX variant is "Player X" and uses a BFG. Amusingly but also terrifyingly, the EX White Shotgunner is just the normal version except fighting seriously, as if he already wasn't one of the worst.

[Hege Cactus]

So its time for an update

Version 0.99
Download

New white tier enemy; The spidermastermind
You should have fun with this one
I still have plans to make something extra happen with white spidie, but thats for later time

Lot of bug fixes, specially when it comes to the backpack options since they had some weird issues
Also damage resistance and weakness tweaks, specially for La tailor girl related weapons

so enjoy

[Dewzanity]

YES! THE LEGENDARY CACTUS IS BACK WITH A BRAND NEW CRACKED ENEMY!

I've always wanted to say that Colourful Hell has been probably the most inspiring Doom mod to be, to the point where I've made mods with it, and even made my own shameless knockoffs, to which I might share one day. I don't know what it is with me and monster randomizers and colors, but I'm somehow fascinated with the idea, and this mod has had a wild influence on me, and I'm very thankful for everything that has been put together so far.

With that said, I tested White Mind out today, and here are my thoughts.

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So far, I feel like he makes for a solid sort of rough draft. It's pretty apparent that the White Mind is unfinished, judging from the lack of enemy sounds, and especially the lack of a death state.

I feel like his difficulty isn't quite worthy of white tier. The only attack that he has that truly causes issues for me seems to be the "Floor Crack" attack, and everything else seemed to be reasonably dodgable. If you do get hit though, it hurts like . Not sure if it was intentional, but I personally had a more rough time with red and black mind. On the other hand, I do like the idea of white mind being fair, yet very punishing at the same time. I just think he needs some sort of "Super Attack" for when he gets low on health or something, which I assume is one of those extra things that Hege might intend to add later.

Speaking of health, I personally think white mind doesn't have enough of it. Red and black mastermind were flying enemies, and they were hard to hit, so I understand the lack of HP progression for red and black mastermind. White cybie is near double in HP, and white vile has more HP, and potentially white baron will be the same, ok enough said.

For some of the bugs I've found, the white mastermind actually does have sounds he may or may not be supposed to use in the files, but the SNDINFO isn't set up for those to play. I think they are very cracked sounds.
White mastermind summons randomly spawned Lost Souls instead of the sentinels he's supposed to. Actor MiniSentinelMasterMind doesn't exist, and summons LS's instead. Actor MiniSentinelSpider is probably meant to be called here.

Don't wear yourself out Dr. Cactus! I look forward to the potential future white mastermind, and eventually, the final white monster.
Very interesting so far.

[Hege Cactus]

Yes, white mind was actually bit rushed, my apologies
it will later have a stage 2 on the 1.0 version

So, here's a fix patch
download

Fixed the death state and sounds, and fixed the proper sentinels

[Dewzanity]

After horsing around a bit more with this mod, there are a few things I'd like to point out.

1. Some bugs I've seen go under the radar; Brown Arachno and Brown Mind completely bypass the check for if browns are enabled. The random spawners spawn "BrownSP2" instead of "BrownSP1", and "BrownMind2" instead of "BrownMind".

2. WhiteSG still screws up the kill count. The culprit is "ShotgunPunishNerf" and "ShotgunPunishNerf2" counting as kills for some reason, before they say "Aight I'm out".
I do have a question for WhiteSG as well. The reason he's always been so tough is because not only does he have 5000 HP, but he takes half damage from all regular damage types, effectively making him have 10000 HP! Is this intentional?

3. I like the idea of the Color Tier Icons, but the execution wasn't as good as it could've been. I've tried out my own take on Color Tier Icons as shown below.



The icons now float above the enemy heads at all times, and they're also standard numbers instead of roman numerals.

Pros :
Easier to indentify tiers.
Less actors on map, increasing performance.
YellowCaco and YellowSP1 are no longer drowning in a sea of icons.
Monster code becomes much cleaner.

Cons :
Tall monsters require modified actors of original icon actors to be above their heads. If the same actor is used for a taller enemy, the icon will be inside their head, or lower down, sorta like RedBaron above.

Bonus :

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Why stop at White Shotgunner, when you can have White White Shotgunner!

I ain't quitting this mod until it's to 100% completion. Best of luck to you.

[Hege Cactus]

After horsing around a bit more with this mod, there are a few things I'd like to point out.

1. Some bugs I've seen go under the radar; Brown Arachno and Brown Mind completely bypass the check for if browns are enabled. The random spawners spawn "BrownSP2" instead of "BrownSP1", and "BrownMind2" instead of "BrownMind".

2. WhiteSG still screws up the kill count. The culprit is "ShotgunPunishNerf" and "ShotgunPunishNerf2" counting as kills for some reason, before they say "Aight I'm out".
I do have a question for WhiteSG as well. The reason he's always been so tough is because not only does he have 5000 HP, but he takes half damage from all regular damage types, effectively making him have 10000 HP! Is this intentional?

3. I like the idea of the Color Tier Icons, but the execution wasn't as good as it could've been. I've tried out my own take on Color Tier Icons as shown below.



The icons now float above the enemy heads at all times, and they're also standard numbers instead of roman numerals.

Pros :
Easier to indentify tiers.
Less actors on map, increasing performance.
YellowCaco and YellowSP1 are no longer drowning in a sea of icons.
Monster code becomes much cleaner.

Cons :
Tall monsters require modified actors of original icon actors to be above their heads. If the same actor is used for a taller enemy, the icon will be inside their head, or lower down, sorta like RedBaron above.

Bonus :

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Why stop at White Shotgunner, when you can have White White Shotgunner!

I ain't quitting this mod until it's to 100% completion. Best of luck to you.

1. I thought I fixed that one since I fixed it earlier on, guess that fix didnt get to the final version.

2. Will try to fix

3. this was what I originally planned to do, but the con listed is why I had trouble with it


This brown monster mishap could actually justify another hot fix update to fix it, so might do just do that when I get a moment

[Dewzanity]

Another quick bug I wanna mention right before the patch. Not sure how long this has been glitched for.

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The Arachnobaron fusion of White Science woman gets frozen in time when doing the plasma attack.

"Goto Missile+4" should be changed to "Goto Missile+2" to make the Arachnobaron keep attacking. Another minor thing is the "Goto See+1", which can just be "Goto See".

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	See:
		ARBR A 3 A_BabyMetal
		ARBR ABBCC 3 A_Chase
		ARBR A 0 A_changeflag(noclip,false)
		ARBR D 3 A_BabyMetal
		ARBR DEEFF 3 A_Chase
		Goto See
   	Missile:
		ARBR A 1 BRIGHT A_Jump (127,"Missile2")
        	ARBR A 20 BRIGHT A_FaceTarget 
		ARBR G 3 BRIGHT A_Custommissile ("Arachnotronplasma", 15, 0, 0)
		ARBR H 2 BRIGHT
		ARBR H 1 BRIGHT A_SpidRefire
		Goto Missile+4
    	Missile2:
		ARBR P 2 BRIGHT A_FaceTarget
        	ARBR P 5 BRIGHT A_Custommissile ("BaronBall", 30, 0, 5)
		ARBR Q 5 BRIGHT A_Custommissile ("BaronBall", 30, 0, 0)
       	 ARBR R 5 BRIGHT A_Custommissile ("BaronBall", 30, 0, -5)
		Goto See+1

That's all I wanted to share. I'll report any more serious bugs.

[Hege Cactus]

Alright

Quick hotfix patch
0.99b
Download

Fixes the brown spider spawn bugs and the other bugs mentioned by Dew

[Exibius]

I noticed skimming through the thread out of curiosity that there was mention of the DRLA assault minigun sprites having conflicts with the Abyss Mastermind actor sprites loosely mentioned here. Sure enough, it appears this version still has this issue. In the meantime, I edited the PK3 locally and changed all sprite names from AMIN to BMIN and reflected it inside AbyssMind2's decorate. Leaving this here so Hege can see this.