Hell-Forged (updated to v1.11 - development paused)

[Amuscaria]

Hi all, can you fill out the simple poll at the opening post regarding the map difficulties. I'm trying to gage the user experience on the maps for E2. Thanks.

[neoworm]

I returned to Hell-forged this weekend to try the latest version and if it will interest me longer than it did innitially and I must admit the levels are just not for me. Starting around level 4 they are just getting bigger but definitely not more interesting or intriguing. A lot of grandious looking space that feels empty in the end. Most of the locations just started to blend together.

But the reason why I decided to post here is the new Hellduke melee attack. Because it got me and not in the right way. Are you sure you wanted to use ComboAttack there? Getting into his melee range to provoke melee attack is hard enough, but punish player immediately with a rocket into the face while the sprite is showing Hellduke swinging his arm is just dirty.

[Amuscaria]

Are you sure you wanted to use ComboAttack there? Getting into his melee range to provoke melee attack is hard enough, but punish player immediately with a rocket into the face while the sprite is showing Hellduke swinging his arm is just dirty.

That is intentional.

Otherwise the player could just cheese out the fight by running up to it and pulling back every time it attack.

[neoworm]

I think it makes the whole animation kinda pointless than and serves no purpose. And personally I think it doesn't look good at all right now. Maybe make his melee be a disc of repulsion like effect that will throw player back? Or let him finish the melee swing and than make him proceed with immediate rocket attack, similarly to like Revenants can go into attack animation right after pain state.

EDIT: I quickly modded the DECORATE so Hellduke goes from his melee attack directly to the rocket barrage and I think it works perfectly. You can trigger melee and still have a fair chance to dodge, but you know a rocket will follow. It fits the animation, doesn't feel unfair and still doesn't let player do any cheese tactics by keeping him in melee state.

[Amuscaria]

The animation was intended as a resources. I wasn't going to add it into decorate at first but added it at the last minute. I'll make the changes you mentioned and see if it's cheesable.

[Seppe]

Is there a guide with the location of the mushrooms?
I am trying to find the mushroom on HF1M5 Assembly Line, but I keep missing it.

[Amuscaria]

Is there a guide with the location of the mushrooms?
I am trying to find the mushroom on HF1M5 Assembly Line, but I keep missing it.

People always ask about that one for some reason, even though it's the easier one to find.

Read below for the rest of the mushrooms (Assuming you're using the latest version 1.10)

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Map1 - Green Mushroom: In the library, to the far left of the room, just below the raised area, there is a hole in the wall. Crouch into that hole and there is a small cave with the Green mushroom.

Map2 - Blue Mushroom: The Green door to the left of the courtyard in the hall. Enter it and there is the Blue mushroom on a small pedestal.

Map3 - Black Mushroom: Just as you enter the map, in the room with the yellow torches. The Black mushroom is inside the first grey pillar in that room, with the spine texture. Just activate the texture the floor will lower with the Black Mushroom.

Map4 - White Mushroom: In the central room with the skull keys, there is a White mushroom hanging from one of the metal bars near the sky-ceiling. Shoot it and it will drop the white mushroom.

Map5 - Red Mushroom: In the Green key room with the glass life-extractor tanks in the Blue Area. Go up the stairs, to the left there is a tank with the Red Mushroom. Destroy the tank and the mushroom will drop.

Map6 - Brown Mushroom: Run along the outside of the Castle walls and you'll eventually come across a large stone pillar that you can enter. Enter inside and there will be the Brown mushroom.

Map7 - Yellow Mushroom: In the Yellow Area, the Yellow mushroom is in one of the lava pits towards the left, the Yellow mushroom is on top of some hardened lava.

Map8 - Orange Mushroom: Near the platform where the secret Green key is, there is a group of small islands on the lava that leads to a secret teleporter for the Green room. Run pass the teleporter, behind the the cliff and there is the Orange mushroom.

Map9 - Purple Mushroom: This is a secret map you get by getting the green key in the second map and activating the secret exit. Near the end of the map, where you get the blue key, there is a tiny switch to the left of the room near the stairs. Hit it and a teleporter will open nearby leading you to a flashing room with the Ppurple mushroom.

[Seppe]

People always ask about that one for some reason, even though it's the easier one to find.

Thanks for the quick reply.
It is indeed a very obvious one, weird that I failed to find it.

[JohnnyTheWolf]

Finally sat down to play this one after procrastinating for so long. It is pretty good so far, although I can only hope that the new version will rework the blade weapon to feel more like a blade weapon and less like a club! The first level on UV does not feel too hard so much as a bit tedious, as the game throws so many Pinky Demons at you early on: it is usually manageable, but I really wish I had a melee weapon to make them go down faster; even the Vorpal Blade's primary attack does not feel too satisfying to use against them.

[Amuscaria]

Finally sat down to play this one after procrastinating for so long. It is pretty good so far, although I can only hope that the new version will rework the blade weapon to feel more like a blade weapon and less like a club! The first level on UV does not feel too hard so much as a bit tedious, as the game throws so many Pinky Demons at you early on: it is usually manageable, but I really wish I had a melee weapon to make them go down faster; even the Vorpal Blade's primary attack does not feel too satisfying to use against them.

Pinkies are only there to charge your Blade. A full charged blade will kill them in 2 hits, and it does splash damage.

[JohnnyTheWolf]

Ah, I guess that makes sense, although it still makes having to fight my way to the Vorpal Blade kind of tedious.

Part of me wishes I could start with the Vorpal Blade rather than a regular sword, but I am not sure it would be balanced.

[JohnnyTheWolf]

Question: in HF1M1, is there a way to get the canisters sitting on top of the tall bookshelves in the large room with two Hell Knights leading to the room with the Vorpal Blade?

[Amuscaria]

Question: in HF1M1, is there a way to get the canisters sitting on top of the tall bookshelves in the large room with two Hell Knights leading to the room with the Vorpal Blade?

Yup. One of the bookshelves has a red book.

[Rudiarius]

Don't let any naysayers make you think HF was too easy, it was perfect in terms of difficulty. Certainly challenging but not frustrating, fun and rewarding.

[Amuscaria]

Don't let any naysayers make you think HF was too easy, it was perfect in terms of difficulty. Certainly challenging but not frustrating, fun and rewarding.

I'm definitely not making it easier. I just trying to get a feel of how much harder I should make E2.