Can't use WildMidi, no clear reason given either as to why.

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Can't use WildMidi, no clear reason given either as to why.

Post by KynikossDragonn »

I wanted to try using freepats inside of GZDoom, I can't figure out how to make TiMidity++ to use it, so I try to use WildMidi and it just gives me a "Unable to create WildMidi MIDI device. Falling back to FluidSynth" without even telling me what's going wrong and where.

I have a /etc/wildmidi/wildmidi.cfg with the following in it:

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## wildmidi.cfg
## This is used to set and configure GUS patchsets to be used with WildMidi
## Please refer to the wildmidi.cfg(5) manpage for more details.

## Load the patchset from freepats
dir /usr/share/freepats
source /etc/freepats/freepats.cfg
I can confirm that WildMidi is working outside of GZDoom because I have working MIDI music in EasyRPG Player, even with this strange way of packing together the pats Void Linux's freepats package does. EasyRPG Player is one of the few things that SPECIFICALLY wants WildMidi, it doesn't have a option to build with FluidSynth.

It doesn't matter if I set "wildmidi_config" to "/etc/wildmidi/wildmidi.cfg" or to just "wildmidi.cfg" with the config symlinked to GZDoom's configuration directory, the result is always the same. The options menu doesn't even show any selectable .cfg files when you access the configuration selection menu either. (Is that menu even supposed to display anything at all?)

The Wiki doesn't give any hints how to make this part of ZMusic work either, so... I'm at a complete loss what's going on, the error message is entirely unhelpful.
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What's your [wiki=CVARs:Audio#WildMIDI_settings]wildmidi_config CVAR[/wiki] like?
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The WildMidi implementation in ZMusic does not use any system installation. It is a stripped down version of the core player that is being driven by GZDoom's internal MIDI sequencer. It never even looks at the file you listed unless you let the CVAR given by Gez point to it.
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Gez wrote:What's your [wiki=CVARs:Audio#WildMIDI_settings]wildmidi_config CVAR[/wiki] like?
I tried setting it exactly to "/etc/wildmidi/wildmidi.cfg" and it didn't work. I tried symlinking that file to ~/.config/gzdoom and just setting it to "wildmidi.cfg" and it also didn't work.
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KynikossDragonn wrote:I tried setting it exactly to "/etc/wildmidi/wildmidi.cfg" and it didn't work.
Okay. As far as I understand, it should have worked.

Have you tried setting it directly to /etc/freepats/freepats.cfg?
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Gez wrote:Have you tried setting it directly to /etc/freepats/freepats.cfg?
Same result.

freepats.cfg doesn't have any dir commands in it to actually tell WildMidi where the actual files are so that wouldn't of worked in the actual thing.

EDIT: I symlink'd /usr/share/freepats/Tone_000 and /usr/share/freepats/Drum_000 AND /etc/freepats/freepats.cfg into the soundfonts directory in GZDoom, still didn't work. Into the ~/.config/gzdoom directory, still didn't work. In the WORKING DIRECTORY of GZDoom, still doesn't work.

I guess this is just plain broken and probably needs to be reported as a issue under the ZMusic github?
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Do you get any error messages in the console?
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Nope, which is strange also because I can get FluidSynth error messages just fine. (stuff like program numbers not existing so it's substituting them)
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Re: Can't use WildMidi, no clear reason given either as to w

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I suspect your issue with Timidity++ is the same thing then. This is also being used as an internal synth driven by ZMusic's sequencer. It also does not use the system's installation.
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Post by KynikossDragonn »

TiMidity++ works fine with SF2s I just don't know how to configure it to use PAT files instead of SF2s. I haven't worked with CFG's for TiMidity in a long time and the CFG that was installed in my distro seems to be specifically for WildMidi.
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