Ashes Afterglow TC - closing the vault

[Big_Boss]

@Vostyok you mentioned it before, but at point you would think about recompling both episodes in one WAD on same textures or whatever it was thats differentiate them between themselves?

[Wally Hackenslacker]

Thank you for all the "missing textures" spots in lzdoom. These are not actually missing textures, these are places where the nodebuilding has failed and opened the map up to the void. This is an LZDOOM issue and while we had someone testing this port none of the blank spots where mentioned during feedback. Sadly with a project of this scale, it is very hard to catch all of the issues in a satisfactory manner without playing through it ourselves a lot more (than we already did). We've decided to extend playtesting time and more carefully vet any playtesters in any future releases in order to avoid this issue.

And I was wondering why I was seeing so many more "missing texture" spots in 1.05. Guess I'll have to upgrade my potato to something that can decently run full GZDoom someday .

As for the race snipers, they are meant to do that, just to make things more interesting. Any sense of them particularly targeting you more than the other races is purely coincidental. Honest.

I didn't notice at all! I was thinking that maybe I was hitting them with Lucy's jump ability by accident without noticing or something like that.

On another note, I just finished Prosperity in 1.05, going about pretty much the same as my playthrough for 1.02 that softlocked with the bomb planting mission in the junkyard that triggered early, and this time it worked perfectly and could finish the hub without any issue!

[Ihavequestions]

On another note, I just finished Prosperity in 1.05, going about pretty much the same as my playthrough for 1.02 that softlocked with the bomb planting mission in the junkyard that triggered early, and this time it worked perfectly and could finish the hub without any issue!

So, on my second playthrough now, I chose to go in a different direction here and there, got to the Dome this time (fantastic map, very impressive!), got into a deal with the Baron instead of killing him, and now am trying to plant the bombs (first time I'd just killed all the Roamers with gunfire, never planting any bomb whatsoever). Without alerting anyone, without shooting... it doesn't work. As soon as I install the first bomb, they all get alerted.

And on a side note, I must have missed finding the video game cartridge this time. Wasn't it supposed to be in Smiley's secret stash? Frankly, I don't remember much regarding all the collectives from my first playthrough. Afterglow is such a huge and varied episode, after all.

[AmissaAnima]

Yohoho the Quiz master if thee are looking for the booty which is thy Game it's

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located in the garbage pile like area that connects to Smiley's stash cave. You gotta keep your eyes open though it's rather small

Unrelated to the answer itself but something has crossed my mind recently regarding Ashes. Like what if there was a seperate campaign where instead of a Scav you play as a Mutant. This mostly comes up from my recent viewing of Alien vs Predator games. And the fact that playing as the enemy that fights against the humans is rather fun. If people show interest in my idea i could go into more detail regarding it.

[bluehawk2008]

I've discovered that if you aggro hiding trash-hags from a distance using the scope on the jusket, and force them to come out hiding, they become invulnerable. Shooting them produces sparks instead of blood and they don't take damage.

[Ihavequestions]

Yohoho the Quiz master if thee are looking for the booty which is thy Game it's

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located in the garbage pile like area that connects to Smiley's stash cave. You gotta keep your eyes open though it's rather small

Cool, thanks. I had totally overlooked it (and also the shotgun shells) when I was there the first time.

Unrelated to the answer itself but something has crossed my mind recently regarding Ashes. Like what if there was a seperate campaign where instead of a Scav you play as a Mutant. This mostly comes up from my recent viewing of Alien vs Predator games. And the fact that playing as the enemy that fights against the humans is rather fun. If people show interest in my idea i could go into more detail regarding it.

Some Brutal Doom variations have that as a power-up: demons leaving a pentagram charge that will turn you into either a revenant or a baron for a limited amount of time. For Ashes, I can imagine playing a Haunt would be fun.

Anyway, here's another bug I noticed: Every time I get off of Lucy, the game switches to the Junker Musket (with and without upgrades). It occasionally does that also when I leave weapon-tooling mode (at a workbench), but that one seems difficult to reproduce.

[Sátántangó]

I can't seem to get the proper ending for what I did in the game

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I can't get the ending for siding with the rebels in Prosperity. I've beaten the game on 1.02 and 1.05 and it just gives me the ending for siding with the Water Baron.

Did anyone get that ending or know what is supposed to happen? I'm really curious because this story is very interesting.

[Sátántangó]

As soon as I install the first bomb, they all get alerted.

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For some bomb spots there are multiple locations where you can plant the bombs. If one alerts them, reload and try the other one that should be further back/out of their view.

[Captain J]

I can't seem to get the proper ending for what I did in the game

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I can't get the ending for siding with the rebels in Prosperity. I've beaten the game on 1.02 and 1.05 and it just gives me the ending for siding with the Water Baron.

Did anyone get that ending or know what is supposed to happen? I'm really curious because this story is very interesting.

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Not sure how did you beat the game in what pathfinding, or what side you joined in exactly but be sure to talk to the Roamers first instead of killing them, persuade the guards in front gate of their base. Listen carefully to Gravito, their leader and they'll give you the quest to sabotage the Prosperity.

[Ihavequestions]

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For some bomb spots there are multiple locations where you can plant the bombs. If one alerts them, reload and try the other one that should be further back/out of their view.

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No, no, there are four bombs in your inventory and four bomb spots throughout the junkyard. So you need to plant one bomb in each spot -- at least, that is my understanding. And at the first two spots (near the entrance), you are being watched, so dropping a bomb immediately triggers an alert. The other two spots are hidden, but you cannot get to those without triggering an alert -- not in a way I would know of, anyway.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how I see the whole situation. And I do not have enough health and any medkits left and not enough armor to risk a plant-and-run.
Yeah okay, I had overlooked one of the options when talking to the Roamers boss. I have now been granted access to the southern part of the junkyard. All is well. They don't get alerted anymore.

[Sátántangó]

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Not sure how did you beat the game in what pathfinding, or what side you joined in exactly but be sure to talk to the Roamers first instead of killing them, persuade the guards in front gate of their base. Listen carefully to Gravito, their leader and they'll give you the quest to sabotage the Prosperity.

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I've got the Roamer's ending but I haven't been able to see the Rebel's ending with Kyle in prosperity as the quest giver. The changelog for 1.05 mentions that there is a Rebel ending or I wouldn't bring it up.

I sell Kyle the two poison spores, sell the other 3 to the medic, then go blow up the Roamer's ammo dump. I come back and talk to Kyle, he gives me the C4 to use in the tunnels and I kill all the hostiles from there. Then I go to Kyle and he tells me that the Rebels control the town. Then I try to leave and I have to kill Gravito. Gravito and the Water Baron should be eliminated but the ending still says the Water Baron is in charge and gives me the same ending as if I had worked for him the whole time.

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For some bomb spots there are multiple locations where you can plant the bombs. If one alerts them, reload and try the other one that should be further back/out of their view.

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No, no, there are four bombs in your inventory and four bomb spots throughout the junkyard. So you need to plant one bomb in each spot -- at least, that is my understanding. And at the first two spots (near the entrance), you are being watched, so dropping a bomb immediately triggers an alert. The other two spots are hidden, but you cannot get to those without triggering an alert -- not in a way I would know of, anyway.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how I see the whole situation. And I do not have enough health and any medkits left and not enough armor to risk a plant-and-run.

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What I'm saying is there are 4 bombs and 4 bomb locations, but 3 of them (maybe all 4) have 2 different spots to plant there. For example:

Here is the first bomb area I saw:


Then right inside you might want to plant it here:


But that will alert them so instead go further back and you can plant it here:


They won't be alerted if you plant it here.

Then in the other 3 areas it is similar, there are hidden areas you can plant it. I can post them all if you want me to.

[AmissaAnima]

Yohoho the Quiz master if thee are looking for the booty which is thy Game it's

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located in the garbage pile like area that connects to Smiley's stash cave. You gotta keep your eyes open though it's rather small

Cool, thanks. I had totally overlooked it (and also the shotgun shells) when I was there the first time.

Unrelated to the answer itself but something has crossed my mind recently regarding Ashes. Like what if there was a seperate campaign where instead of a Scav you play as a Mutant. This mostly comes up from my recent viewing of Alien vs Predator games. And the fact that playing as the enemy that fights against the humans is rather fun. If people show interest in my idea i could go into more detail regarding it.

Some Brutal Doom variations have that as a power-up: demons leaving a pentagram charge that will turn you into either a revenant or a baron for a limited amount of time. For Ashes, I can imagine playing a Haunt would be fun.

Anyway, here's another bug I noticed: Every time I get off of Lucy, the game switches to the Junker Musket (with and without upgrades). It occasionally does that also when I leave weapon-tooling mode (at a workbench), but that one seems difficult to reproduce.

Not as a powerup mate. I meant as in it's own campaign. Starting out as a mutant and doing things like killing and sabotaging for other outposts and the like.

Off topic and spoilery talk

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So out of curiousity i decided not to take the briefcase computer when i left the Circle when i got to the ambush/capture i noticed that there was no real dialogue difference in the Mutant B and the Big boss cutscene. So i don't don't if the game assumes you have it even though you didn't have it in your inventory in the first place. This is a rather sad fact as i think that there should be a route where you legit refuse to take the briefcase. I don't know how that would work out. I assume over time the Mutant B would find out about the Circle and the location of the Briefcase and attack the circle and steal it. You later find out in the cutscene that i mentioned that she did just that. And mention that the Circle is completely wiped out in the conversation instead of taking it from you. That is something that i thought of just now. It doesn't have to be completely like i mentioned but i think there should at least be a no briefcase route. Whenever or not this idea gets accepted is up to the Dev. I have zero expectations that it will get added but it's good to at least bring up stuff like this i reckon.

[Vostyok]

Yeah, with regards to that specific quest item you get from Rigs, there is actually dialogue in the files for this eventuality (should the scavenger not want to involve themselves in this potentially dangerous mission). I'm hopefully adding it back in as an option, since we did plan for it to change some things in the future.

[Ihavequestions]

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But that will alert them so instead go further back and you can plant it here:

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Thanks, I didn't know about this second spot in the back. That makes things even easier.

EDIT:

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All bombs planted undetected, but to get the red keycard, I still need to stir up the scene, right?

[Big_Boss]

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All bombs planted undetected, but to get the red keycard, I still need to stir up the scene, right?

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To get acces to bike, right?
Actually no? If you talk to a boss of Raiders, he will tell you that if you find person who stole your bike you can "Challenge" them and if you win - you get your bike. That person is present on that map and you can challenge them win, take a red card and prepear bike before planting last charge, plant it - run to bike and ride off to the sunset