Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

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Re: Version 1.32 released

Postby armymen12002003 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:25 am

NightFright wrote:Finally managed to get it right. If anybody wants to know how I did it: I basically checked all the maps for things outside of playable areas and converted them to ambient sounds. This way they shouldn't count towards monster kills any longer. Ambient sounds should still sound pretty much the same as it did with the old system (in some cases even better since obviously the Mancubi/Hitler Ghosts didn't really provide any sounds before I changed that). Hans Grosse bosses now also won't end the level any more once killed, but drop golden keys instead which should make MAP30 and MAP32 work as intended. For this purpose I had to delete the boss code from DEHACKED and recreate it in DECORATE as faithfully as possible with an additional drop.

Changelog v1.32
- Original Missions: 100% kills now possible on all maps (monsters as sound sources replaced)
- Nocturnal Missions: 100% kills now possible on all maps (monsters as sound sources replaced); fix for Hans Grosse boss not dropping golden key


can you do the same with 2nd encounter regarding sounds?
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby NightFright » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:37 am

They used monsters as sound sources there, too? Geez.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby armymen12002003 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:52 am

NightFright wrote:They used monsters as sound sources there, too? Geez.


Yea they did
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby NightFright » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:34 am

Let's hope it's the last one. Searching through all the maps, identifying monsters used as sound sources, replacing and defining them properly is a tiresome task.

*EDIT*
I am checking all the addons and realize this is pretty much everywhere. Under the given circumstances I guess it's much easier if I just put a -COUNTKILL flags on all monster actors that are exclusively (ab)used as sound sources since otherwise this will take forever. It will also avoid doing any further map edits or sound redefinitions.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby CantSleep » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:51 am

Good stuff. I did some minor/major improvements to some of the mods, check your PMs to take a look.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby Curunir » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:03 pm

Is there any chance someone maybe does a DOS sound replacer?

I need my SPION!

Apart from that, ace work! All the angular simulated lighting looks great! I'm always very short on ammo too, but that could be me.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby ZikShadow » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:23 pm

Was playing Halten Sie! with Nazis! when I fought a couple of bosses. Wondering why I was whiffing my shots at point blank range. Decided to check their radius with the RadiusDebug tool.
They're also hitting me instantly the moment they see me, no time to dodge or even take cover. Made the usual Wolfenstein rhythm of shooting them before taking cover completely broken.



Also found another radius broken entity in Astrostein.



Got myself stuck here after pressing a button, second map I think. Glitch or feature?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... -21-57.mp4
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby NightFright » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:10 am

For the next two weeks I am without access to my PC, so unfortunately I am not able to check anything before.

What I know is that I used DECORATE to enhance already dehacked enemies. Years ago that seemed to work, but more recent GZDoom releases may have changed that. I haven't played any of the mods again for years, so it is possible quite a few things are broken now which used to work fine before.

A complete review of the entire collection may eventually be required.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby Phredreeke » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:57 pm

If so I hope a solution could be found in regards to the scale of enemies and player relative to the environment.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby Luktom101 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:49 am

Hey there, great job with Wolfendoom. Its really a great TC, very playable, especially with modified sound's for the enemies and better weapons sprites, i really like them, they are soo much more satisfying to use now. Do you think you could also update sound's for the Spear Of Destiny, just like you did with Original and Nocturnal episodes?
I mean, it feels kinda off and backwards, when you move, to Spear, after completing all six episodes and from some kind of reason i really like when they call me "Schweinhund"
Also i noticed that Gretel Grosse at the end of "Trail of a madman" dosen't drop a key and she's has waaay to less HP point's. It Makes her weaker than a guard.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby NightFright » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:28 am

Most of the bosses must have broken with some ZDoom/GZDoom update since 2015. I played through all of this back in the days and everything worked fine. By now it seems my strategy of editing already altered dehacked actors via decorate no longer works and breaks balancing completely. Until I have the time to fix all of this, you are better off using a port version from 2015. It's not a solution I suggest easily since I hate using old versions by myself, but playability just suffers too much with recent GZD versions. It's a mess and I am sorry for it. I wasn't very experienced with decorate back then and couldn't do a proper dehacked conversion. It still isn't easy. Fixing all the new bugs alone will be a massive task, so I'd rather not think about anything else right now.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby Luktom101 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:06 am

I was using Zandroum 3.0 and just beat the last episode. General Fettgesicht seems to have a normal HP Bar, the level ends after beating him though. Sorry to bother you, but do you think you could also add something like Score Table for each episode, becouse collecting treasure is just pointless now. It felt more satisfying to find secrets, when it added armour points, but i guess its kinda weird, that gold acts like armour, so how about Rankings, for each episode. It would add more meaning to uncover secret areas and again sorry for bothering you, but i just find Wolfendoom, the best option, when i want to play Wolfenstein.
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Re: Laz Rojas' WolfenDoom for ZDoom [v1.32]

Postby NightFright » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:06 am

That's beyond my skills and hardly likely to happen under the given circumstances. I am aware the addons are not on the same feature level, but they were like that in the first place and my primary goal was to make them work in ZDoom at all. In the meantime, port updates even ruined that goal again, but that's life.

As some contextual info, when I made this back in the days I worked on it for 2-3 months straight, almost every day. It was a learning process, trial and error, and in the end it was more like I glued everything together and was proud it worked somehow. Later ZDoom versions weren't so forgiving any more and punished my sloppiness hard. What is needed now is to do a proper dehacked-to-decorate conversion without conflicts, and it's nothing I can simply shake out of my sleeve. No sooner can adding features even be considered than before everything works again the way it did 5 years ago. Long story short: It's really not the time for feature requests, but it helps to know what doesn't work, even though I will have to play through the entire compilation again to see where the big issues are. Merging episodes is still no more than wishful thinking.

I know some of you guys are really burning for this to be pushed forward, but at the moment I have neither motivation nor time to resume this project at all. Both factors are required to get any satisfying result. The only way I see this get back on track within any acceptable timeframe is if I open team positions for people who know what they are doing. This worked quite well for the Fullscreen Statusbar Mod project. As a one-man project this honestly has grown over the top of my head.
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