[v3.1.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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Should I nerf fire based weapons like Dragon's Breath and Napalmkraftwerk?

Poll ended at Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:36 pm

Yes please, they're broken af
3
12%
Nah, they're fine
22
88%
 
Total votes: 25

Mackery
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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CanisLaticanis wrote:Honestly I feel like the SSG needs a beefier sound, if nothing else. And maybe a new sprite.

Also, found another bug: the nailgun mode on the SMGs doesn't respect your vertical aim angle - if I look up it still shoots horizontal.
This may be an engine limit, but when I shoot nails at doors, the nails "float" on the door when the door opens. I have seen this with other mods with "nailgun" weapons so I might be wrong.
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Mackery wrote:
CanisLaticanis wrote:Honestly I feel like the SSG needs a beefier sound, if nothing else. And maybe a new sprite.

Also, found another bug: the nailgun mode on the SMGs doesn't respect your vertical aim angle - if I look up it still shoots horizontal.
This may be an engine limit, but when I shoot nails at doors, the nails "float" on the door when the door opens. I have seen this with other mods with "nailgun" weapons so I might be wrong.
I think it's the engine. It seems that no code for objects on moving map elements has been implemented yet...
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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CanisLaticanis wrote:Honestly I feel like the SSG needs a beefier sound, if nothing else. And maybe a new sprite.

Also, found another bug: the nailgun mode on the SMGs doesn't respect your vertical aim angle - if I look up it still shoots horizontal.
Yeah, maybe I was a little harsh there. The SSG doesn't sucks that much, but would be subject of some improvements.

Just for reference, making it looks like the one in Old Blood would be cool :

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/wol ... 0523013903
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Stock-Doom wrote:
CanisLaticanis wrote:Honestly I feel like the SSG needs a beefier sound, if nothing else. And maybe a new sprite.

Also, found another bug: the nailgun mode on the SMGs doesn't respect your vertical aim angle - if I look up it still shoots horizontal.
Yeah, maybe I was a little harsh there. The SSG doesn't sucks that much, but would be subject of some improvements.

Just for reference, making it looks like the one in Old Blood would be cool :

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/wol ... 0523013903
Why does the TNO and OB Double Barreled Shotgun have a rifle bolt? I played both games and the bolt is never used in any way to open the barrels or to eject spent shells...
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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Reloads with use dual weapons not working. Please fix it.
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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How do you summon powerups with cheats?
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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necronus25 wrote:Reloads with use dual weapons not working. Please fix it.
The new system is that you hold the reload button and hit the fire button for the gun you want to reload; you can switch back to the old one in the options menu.

More bugs:
  • I'm not getting any pickup messages.
  • There's a black rectangle in the upper-left of the HUD (possibly related?).
  • The new vector-based HUD also very occasionally seems to 'spaz out', for lack of a better term, like one of the draw points is suddenly in the corner of the screen.
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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Could you post the older version links at the first post please.
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Any chance of making this compatible with blade of agony?
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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Stock-Doom wrote:From all the weapons I tried, I found the SSG(Double Shotgun) to be the dumbest and dullest of them all.

The sprites clashes with the other ones, the damage spread don't do jack and compared to the GrimmHammer(Which I found to be powerful, fast and satisfying), it just looks and feels like crap.

Maybe the Dark Matter Gun should make a comeback and replaces this crappy weapon...
Mackery wrote:Maybe just improve the ssg? Add a Ricochet pellets/rifled slugs. How about Mouse 1 fires one barrel, and Mouse 2 fires both, and pressing "change firemode" will swap the ammo to ricochet pellets/rifled slugs/explosive buckshot.
I might go with Mackery's suggestion for the SSG, making it somewhat better with those extra ammo types.
CanisLaticanis wrote:Honestly I feel like the SSG needs a beefier sound, if nothing else. And maybe a new sprite.
Stock-Doom wrote:Just for reference, making it looks like the one in Old Blood would be cool
I once tried to make it look like the one from TNO/TOB but I kinda couldn't, probably because of the break-action part of the weapon, and the weapon's fire sound is beefy enough (hell, I even amplified the sound of Doom 2016's SSG for the thing).
CanisLaticanis wrote:More bugs:
I'm not getting any pickup messages.
There's a black rectangle in the upper-left of the HUD (possibly related?).
The new vector-based HUD also very occasionally seems to 'spaz out', for lack of a better term, like one of the draw points is suddenly in the corner of the screen.
That's a lot of HUD-based bugs. I'm thinking to make this more compatible with custom HUDs (Ultimate DoomVisor, for example) by adding number based indicators for stuff like Venom Gun heating.
VecterStroke wrote:Could you post the older version links at the first post please.
Just added the links for all previous version in both primary and alternative links!
armymen12002003 wrote:Any chance of making this compatible with blade of agony?
Cool idea, but compared to the realistic gameplay of BoA and the raw power-fantasy of a gameplay of this mod, I would have to balance the shit out of the mod to make it work properly.
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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For reference, I actually really like the vector-based HUD; it's really clean and smooth even at high resolutions. Ultimate DoomVisor compatibility wouldn't be a bad idea, but I'd prefer if it was done through a custom version of UDV to include all the nuance of the weapons (upgrade status, heat/recharge gauges, independent weapon ammo displays for dual/crosswield, etc).

On the SSG sound, it feels like it lacks bass kick for some reason, even compared to the Doom 2016 version. Maybe pitch-shift it down a bit? The idea for alternate ammos is nice, particularly since it lacks ADS at the moment.

On a different note, I think the SMG's view sprites could use improvement; they don't really look like the pickup sprite.

Any idea if we'll be getting a bugfix before the next update?
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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Oh ok well hopefully we will be able to see a compatible version too
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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D3athStalker wrote:Cool idea, but compared to the realistic gameplay of BoA and the raw power-fantasy of a gameplay of this mod, I would have to balance the shit out of the mod to make it work properly.
Speaking of raw power-fantasy, what about compatibility with ZioMcCall's Brutal Wolfenstein? I realize that mod isn't exactly complete, not by the author's standards anyway, but I figure those maps would be a perfect fit for Doom Incarnate.
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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I made a trailer for this mod. You can watch it here.
https://youtu.be/Hki9Qvoweqo
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Re: [v1.8.1] Doom Incarnate: A Wolfenstein style mod

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Thanks for the links
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