Just when you thought it was safe to go back on the internet

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Just when you thought it was safe to go back on the internet

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https://edri.org/eu-member-states-agree ... t-uploads/

Giving this a signal boost, as it is fucking terrifying. Think Net Neutrality x10. Think ContentID at a government level. Think having to pay tax just to post an external link.

After all the EU's posturing over GDPR being good for the average Joe, here comes the tradeoff.
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The totalitarian future is real after all... :(
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The main problem, as always, is that most major politicians predate the internet age and have absolutely no clue how it works. This entire thing is insanity squared cooked up by buffoons who have long passed the date of expiry when it comes to tech stuff.

On the bright side: Remember the last time that some politicians tried to push such crap (SOPA, PIPA, ACTA)? They all failed when having to be approved by parliament - both in the EU and USA. I really do not expect this to go any different route.

My personal expectation here is that the big internet corporations will threaten to fire thousands of employees and moving their business entirely overseas and this will die a quick death.
Only a total moron can believe that this can be done without suffering some extremely severe economical repercussions.

And if not, there's still the courts - as much of this is unconstitutional.
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Glad someone brought this up again after Lexi halled the first one, because I really did want to see Graf's take on it as an EU-based computer guy!

(As for my own thoughts, this looks like an attempt to privatize China's Great Firewall based on a tattletale system... which seems a bit inherently dysfunctional in both the "evil statist oppressor" sense and the "if we shake the jar hard enough to make the bugs fight they will be able to eat each other and sustain their numbers by using themselves as food" sense.)
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I'd be willing to let this thread remain, for sake of importance, as long as it doesn't slide into a doom and gloom type of thing like the other one was.
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For some reason, I start to believe that Half-life 2 wasn't really a game, it was more like a warning.
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Reactor wrote:For some reason, I start to believe that Half-life 2 wasn't really a game, it was more like a warning.
...What did I literally just say? :?
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The problem here is, big media (BBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, Sinclair, Time Warner, AT&T, CNN, etc) is in a HUGE effort to power-grab the internet. The "adpocalypse" on Youtube was part of the same effort and same campaign that caused this bullshit, along with SOPA/PIPA/ACTA to appear. It's that very same campaign that caused Net Neutrality to be repealed in the United States.

The reason is simple: The internet competes with their monopoly for providing information. They want to eliminate that and be the sole providers of said information.

In my opinion, though, the mainstream media is failing us. So, instead of fixing their problems, they're trying to kill the alternatives.
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Oh Christ! As if the Net Neutrality thing wasn't bad enough, now I've got this to worry about too!
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Days since last doomsaying: 0.
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Just on tiny questions.
How they are going to "filter" all informations?
Because I dont see any really working ways, besides to put next to each internet user commissar, which prevent posting illegal links/informations/set of current interruptions by using something from range of "flaming speech dont do this!" and end up with "warning shot in the head computer from the service bolter hammer".
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I don't think they could. And even if they succeed, this will only incite people to join the "dark side", namely, the DarkWeb, which is free of censorships and stuff. Same thing when Napoleon tried to kill off England by the blockade, or the alcohol banisment in the USA. It only encouraged smuggling, and their loss was someone else's gain.
Main thing is: there will always be an "underground", a "rebellion".
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This is not a "two minutes to midnight" situation tbh...
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hardcore_gamer wrote:Good bye internet :(
Hello DarkWeb, my old friend... ;)
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