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Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:59 am
by Enjay
DXDiag output attached

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:36 am
by drfrag
Problem solved with DXGL:
https://www.dxgl.org/downloads/

On win 7 ZDoom 1.23 worked right out of the box with wrong colors but not here, only DXGL works. The installer ticked the VS 2010 runtime but it was not needed so i unticked it. ZDoom runs with default settings, i just had to add the ZDoom executable to the configuration program and it works well (copies the wrapper's ddraw.dll to your executable folder). The program comes with windows help.

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:29 am
by invictius
drfrag wrote:Problem solved with DXGL:
https://www.dxgl.org/downloads/

On win 7 ZDoom 1.23 worked right out of the box with wrong colors but not here, only DXGL works. The installer ticked the VS 2010 runtime but it was not needed so i unticked it. ZDoom runs with default settings, i just had to add the ZDoom executable to the configuration program and it works well (copies the wrapper's ddraw.dll to your executable folder). The program comes with windows help.
Just curious about why you want to get 1.23 running? Wad that refuses to work with anything higher?

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:47 pm
by wildweasel
invictius wrote:Just curious about why you want to get 1.23 running? Wad that refuses to work with anything higher?
Pardon my remark, but I find it interesting that you want to ask this of him, when I recall asking you a similar thing in one of your own threads and never got a straight answer.

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:36 am
by invictius
wildweasel wrote:
invictius wrote:Just curious about why you want to get 1.23 running? Wad that refuses to work with anything higher?
Pardon my remark, but I find it interesting that you want to ask this of him, when I recall asking you a similar thing in one of your own threads and never got a straight answer.
Because having made three ports, he probably has a clear reason for using 1.23 unlike my very general "want to use old hardware" reasons.

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:43 am
by wildweasel
invictius wrote:Because having made three ports, he probably has a clear reason for using 1.23 unlike my very general "want to use old hardware" reasons.
Okay, but I had suggested alternatives that would target said older hardware, and you never gave a reason why it had to be ZDoom 1.17 specifically instead of Boom or Eternity.

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:15 am
by invictius
wildweasel wrote:
invictius wrote:Because having made three ports, he probably has a clear reason for using 1.23 unlike my very general "want to use old hardware" reasons.
Okay, but I had suggested alternatives that would target said older hardware, and you never gave a reason why it had to be ZDoom 1.17 specifically instead of Boom or Eternity.
Oh, that topic. Probably due to familiarity with zdoom and wanting proper mouselook (eternitys' feels a lot different, I don't recall if boom even has it) - I was going to say frame counter, but that didn't come until much later.

But I'd like to not further derail this thread.

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:07 pm
by drfrag
I did three ports? I don't remember exactly right now how many, probably there are more. :lol:
No idea, i don't use 1.23 i just wanted to run old versions for comparison and historical reasons. I also tried even older ones on my modern machines and they run with DXGL.

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:27 pm
by invictius
drfrag wrote:I did three ports? I don't remember exactly right now how many, probably there are more. :lol:
No idea, i don't use 1.23 i just wanted to run old versions for comparison and historical reasons. I also tried even older ones on my modern machines and they run with DXGL.
The dos version might be of particular interest to you. It runs Tei Tenga and I'm assuming any other zdoom wads made around the same time. No midi support though.

Re: Trying to run ZDoom 1.23 on win 8.1

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:22 pm
by drfrag
Actually not, those versions were unstable and crashed from time to time. The DOS version was a curiosity (there was another earlier one but never released).
Some info: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40699