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I wonder, and I'm not saying this in jest, if anyone has looked for outcomes from the very prolonged elevated level of carbon dioxide intake from masking for hours at a time over 1-2 years.

There were already several types of jobs that required long term wearing of face masks (of various types) long before COVID hit.

dasho wrote:I wonder, and I'm not saying this in jest, if anyone has looked for outcomes from the very prolonged elevated level of carbon dioxide intake from masking for hours at a time over 1-2 years.

I'd say it's a lot more worrying to live in a world where people will believe anything some crackpot hillbilly Joe says about wearing masks which have been harmlessly used by surgeons for at least hundreds of years over actual certified, licensed medical professionals about the efficacy of masks and vaccines.

If you believe everything that blatant and obvious liars and idiots like Joe Rogan and Cucker Tarlson say and take actual medical advice from them in the place of a qualified medical professional who's spent nearly a decade of his/her life if not more in medical school then you are part of a literal death cult and you're insane.

My job requires me to wear a face mask for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. About the only difference I've noticed is that I spend a few extra seconds adjusting the thing every couple of hours, and ultimately a bit of soreness behind the ears if it stays too tight for too long.

That's all.

While I appreciate the fervor in defending inanimate pieces of cloth, I said nothing about their efficacy in preventing the transmission of COVID, but instead mentioned a side effect that is empirical and measurable with even the simplest blood work. And, like most things about this situation, some long-term effects might not be known for years, including having people who have recently been affected by a novel respiratory virus then additionally increase their carbon dioxide intake for 40+ hours per week.

>years

Have been wearing these things 40 hours a week for almost 2 entire years. If there were any adverse effects, I would damn well have noticed them by now. While I appreciate the fervor in denouncing masks, it's just a better idea to FRIGGIN' WEAR THEM as a courtesy to the people around you.

Plus, like Rachael said, there's jobs that have been required to wear these things (or other similar types of face wear) for long periods, for many, many years before COVID. Long term effects, if they existed, would be very well documented by now.

dasho wrote:While I appreciate the fervor in defending inanimate pieces of cloth, I said nothing about their efficacy in preventing the transmission of COVID, but instead mentioned a side effect that is empirical and measurable with even the simplest blood work. And, like most things about this situation, some long-term effects might not be known for years, including having people who have recently been affected by a novel respiratory virus then additionally increase their carbon dioxide intake for 40+ hours per week.

None of us here are in much of a position to discuss it, since as you noted the long-term effects aren't known to smarter people who apparently have measured it. All we can offer (and all you can offer) is unfounded speculation. So, if the only reason you're bringing it up is some sort of "gotcha" position against wearing a mask for some godforsaken idiotic (likely political) reason in the middle of a global pandemic, then be plainly warned that I have no intent to entertain such things.

This reminds me of the people that argue against wearing a seatbelt because there's a tiny chance they might get trapped in a burning / sinking car, ignoring the getting turned to paste at high speeds part that most would-be fatal accidents have in common.

I never said the answer couldn't be "there is no effect"; I had asked if it had been looked into. I won't speculate further, because then we're just trading stories with a sample size of one that prove nothing. Also, again, I never "denounced" anything. I understand that people have been conditioned to provide knee-jerk reactions on the subject, but I would appreciate words not being put into my mouth. Has it not occurred to you that I could have noticed these effects because I was "friggin' wearing one" and had a chance to see its effects first-hand?

And weasel said he hasn't. Congratulations, we've cancelled out the argument with two annecdotal testimonies.

"Conditioned to provide knee-jerk reactions" my fucking ass. I have a zero tolerance for bullshit these days.