[2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

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[2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Rachael » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:35 pm

Continuation of this: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=53687

Gore still crashes on the Software renderer. I used the 32-bit devbuild to generate these crash reports, since I am pretty inexperienced with diagnosing and fixing these, myself.

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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby randi » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:28 pm

How long did you have to leave it running on the titlemap to crash? What resolution?
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Rachael » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:32 pm

It really was pretty random, sometimes it took 10 seconds sometimes it took a couple minutes. I ran at 1600x1000 (which was LB mode for 1600x1200).
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Ozymandias81 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:38 am

WOW didn't know that Gore was causing this chaos lol

Anyway I noticed a couple of things inside your reports:

1. What are those splash / fluids wads autoloaded within ZDoom? Gore has hundreds of actors and maybe there are some conflicts between something internal which comes out of them (despite the Blood actor from zdoom.pk3, which is highly used for the gory system on Gore XD)

2. My maps used GL skyboxes defined through GLDEFS lump plus MAPINFO settings... dunno if it could be another cause of the issue...

3. In case you missed it, there is also a GitHUB version of Gore and I am (I was but surely I'll be in the future :P ) in the way to convert existent maps into UDMF format... Maybe tryin' to see if that fixes the bug here?

In the end I found the problem: try to remove the TENEBRAE.ogg from the music folder or just rename it in order to not load it from the TITLEMAP, because this way I won't get any crashes (but happens with most recent build of ZDoom if I leave it)
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Rachael » Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:49 am

Ozymandias81 wrote:WOW didn't know that Gore was causing this chaos lol

Anyway I noticed a couple of things inside your reports:

1. What are those splash / fluids wads autoloaded within ZDoom? Gore has hundreds of actors and maybe there are some conflicts between something internal which comes out of them (despite the Blood actor from zdoom.pk3, which is highly used for the gory system on Gore XD)

2. My maps used GL skyboxes defined through GLDEFS lump plus MAPINFO settings... dunno if it could be another cause of the issue...

3. In case you missed it, there is also a GitHUB version of Gore and I am (I was but surely I'll be in the future :P ) in the way to convert existent maps into UDMF format... Maybe tryin' to see if that fixes the bug here?

In the end I found the problem: try to remove the TENEBRAE.ogg from the music folder or just rename it in order to not load it from the TITLEMAP, because this way I won't get any crashes (but happens with most recent build of ZDoom if I leave it)

1. Splash.pk3 was Enjay's TERRAIN lump and ported sprites from Heretic for emulating splashy water from Heretic. Fluids.pk3 just applies a warp effect and makes the fluid animations smooth.

2. Not an issue. It just won't show them.

3. No - if there's a crash, we need to use the wad that actually causes it. This likely seems to be a texture bounds error related to the floatification.

4. Are you absolutely sure about your music causing the crashes? I am not, and I doubt that's the issue. I think it was just coincidence that you didn't get the crashes when you unloaded it.
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Ozymandias81 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:12 am

Yeah if I remove only the Titlemap music, everything goes fine on my side.
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Graf Zahl » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:17 am

Is this still an issue iwith all the changes to the renderer over the last 4 months?
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Rachael » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:50 am

Yes, it is, but it is not a crash issue. (QZDoom)

QZDoom catches access violations - and they still occur and will report them - but it will let the game continue to run.
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Ozymandias81 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:09 am

Are you two totally sure that it isn't a sound issue?
FYI the music used on that Titlemap was an .iti module converted with ModPlug Tracker, straight from the original .u8 audio file of Ultima VIII: Pagan.
Then I used the same program (ModPlug) to build up the .mp3 file and then checked it through Audacity in order to augment a bit its amplification.
If I remove such music everything goes fine for me...

Forgot also to say that I have saved such file with Audacity as an .ogg file
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Graf Zahl » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:41 am

If it crashes in the renderer it cannot be a sound issue, don't you think?
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Re: [2.9pre-1425-g97107b6] Gore still crashes

Postby Rachael » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:47 am

Exactly what Graf said.

Crashes may appear mysterious to you, but to anyone who has a debugger you know exactly what code is crashing. Additionally, QZDoom does not prevent sound code crashes.
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