GZDoom locks up everything; requires hard restart.

abbuw · Post by **abbuw** » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:53 pm

I'm not sure if this is a hardware fault on my end or something, but whenever I'm playing GZDoom my computer will lock up randomly. This forces me to do a hard restart if I want to use it again. This only seems to happen with GZDoom, however I play alot of Doom. This happens with the latest beta release (gzdoom-x64-g3.8pre-694-gcda248df6) and the latest stable release (3.7.2). Is there any way to make GZDoom generate some sort of diagnostic thing for someone who knows the codes to take a gander at?

I'm using Windows 10 Home version 1809, build 17763.379. My processor is an Intel i5-5200u with an integrated Intel HD Graphics 5500, using the latest drivers (version 15.40.42.5063).

Quick edit: Neglected to mention this happens alot whenever I'm testing my own custom maps, but I've had it happen a few times with Hideous Destructor (3.7.2d) in TNT. I don't play much vanilla so I can't say anything about that.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:22 pm

If it locks up there is no change for any diagnostics anymore. Random lockups are normally a sign of some hardware problem, e.g. maybe the temperatue got too high or the power supply cannot sustain what the system needs and are very rarely a software problem.

One thing you can try is, if you run with vsync off to switch it on. If that helps it's definitely a hardware problem.

abbuw · Post by **abbuw** » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:08 pm

Shucks, I'm already running with vsync on. I've always got Core Temp running and the temperature never goes above 65c when I'm in game, CPU load is usually at 40 or so. I do alot more CPU intensive things than play GZDoom and I don't have any lockups, though I simply might not be doing them long enough to actually get a lockup.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:01 am

One other thing: Check your system for dust. It happened to me many years ago that I experienced similar problems. But when I finally opened the case the graphics card's fan was clogged with so much dust that it couldn't do its work anymore. After I cleaned it up, no more instabilities.

Post by **drfrag** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:40 am

What about other games? If it's a hard lock most likely it's a hardware problem. I think modern GZDoom runs in a borderless window now. A trick for a hung fullscreen application on win 10 is to press win+tab and create a new desktop. Then to go there and lauch task manager with ctrl+alt+del and kill the process.

abbuw · Post by **abbuw** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:34 pm

Graf Zahl wrote:One other thing: Check your system for dust. It happened to me many years ago that I experienced similar problems. But when I finally opened the case the graphics card's fan was clogged with so much dust that it couldn't do its work anymore. After I cleaned it up, no more instabilities.

Gave my computer a good dusting with approximately all the duster that has ever existed, hope this helps out a bit. No crashes yet, but I have been limiting the amount of time I'm playing GZDoom because having to hard restart my computer makes me wince and cringe and feel all the bad emotions.

drfrag wrote:What about other games? If it's a hard lock most likely it's a hardware problem. I think modern GZDoom runs in a borderless window now. A trick for a hung fullscreen application on win 10 is to press win+tab and create a new desktop. Then to go there and lauch task manager with ctrl+alt+del and kill the process.

I've only had complete hard lockups in GZDoom, however I don't play alot of modern games with fancy OpenGL 4.x features. I was having issues with lockups back in August but that was because my hard drive was in the process of biting the dust.

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