Timidity++ issues

[ksio89]

Thanks for the release. However, I wonder what's happening to TiMidity++, because it's sounding worse by each new build. Now the music sounds higher pitched when synthesized by TiMidity++ than it was on older builds, and I'm using the same soundfont (Patch93's SC-55 v22 soundfont). With CoolSoft's VirtualMIDISynth configured as GZDoom MIDI synth, music sounds amazing, as TiMIDIty++ used to do up until 3.2.3 or 3.2.4 build, before it started sounding flat. I know I can just choose to load music files pack as IWADs and play them with OpenAL, but it's just easier to set up a soundfont and a MIDI synth, as it works for all games. Thanks anyway.

[Graf Zahl]

With 3.3.0 Timidity++ was changed to an internal synth. This was accompanied by some significant changes to how it uses soundfont configs. Are you sure it actually uses what you want it to use?
Of the soundfonts I have tried so far I could not detect any significant differences. Another cause for a 'flat' appearance may be a different sound volume. The external Timidity++ has always been extremely loud, - to the point that a master sound level override had to be implemented. The new internal one is roughly at the same volume level as the other MIDI synths. So if you did not tone down the value with that master level CVAR I'd not be surprised that you perceive it as 'flat'. The change was necessary so that average sound volume across different music types and MIDI synths does not diverge too much.

[ksio89]

No,when I mean Timidity++ sounds flatter than it was, I mean it sounds less full, not in volume. It has way less reverb, instruments sound really thin, and some instruments are almost inaudible. Actually, Microsoft Wavetable GM Synthesizer now sounds way better than Timidity++. And yes, I edited the timidity.cfg pointing to the location of my soundfont, I don't know if since 3.3.0, it ignores external soundfonts. Well, as long as I have VirtualMIDISynth, this isn't issue, just don't like needing an external application to have MIDI music sound great.

[Graf Zahl]

In that case the obvious answer is that you must use different settings then. The defaults of the internal synth actually do not activate reverb, unlike for the external version. Most users do not like reverb so the default was chosen to make it easier for them to get the preferred output.

[Korell]

And yes, I edited the timidity.cfg pointing to the location of my soundfont

What timidity.cfg file? Since it got integrated into GZDoom the settings for Timidity are all within the gzdoom.ini file. For instance:

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[GlobalSettings]
timidity_tempo_adjust=1
timidity_key_adjust=0
timidity_drum_power=1
timidity_pan_delay=false
timidity_drum_effect=false
timidity_overlap_voice_allow=true
timidity_modulation_envelope=true
timidity_temper_control=true
timidity_lpf_def=1
timidity_channel_pressure=false
timidity_surround_chorus=false
timidity_chorus=0
timidity_reverb_level=0
timidity_reverb=0
timidity_portamento=true
timidity_modulation_wheel=true
timidity_frequency=0
timidity_config=Patch93's Roland SC-55

There's no need for external files for Timidity now.