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Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Formic.Sapien » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:43 am

I can get 3D weapon models to show up no problem in Doom/Doom II, but when I do the same thing in Heretic, they won't show. I know my .DEF is loading because the sprites will disappear during the frames I have overwritten with my model. but the model just won't show up. I can even rename and put my heretic models into my doom pk3, and they show up fine.

Here's the contents of my Modeldef.Heretic.Weapons.def

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MODEL CROSSBOW
{
   Path "Models/Weapons/Hud/CROSSBOW"
   Model 0 "EtherealCrossbow.md3"
   Skin 0 "EtherealCrossbow.png"

   Scale 1.0 1.0 1.0
   FrameIndex CRBW A 0 0
   FrameIndex CRBW B 0 0
   FrameIndex CRBW C 0 0
}


BTW, these are for the new release of the GZDoom VR with tracked motion controls. Works great with the Doom wads!
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Re: Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Graf Zahl » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:48 am

This sounds like it gets caught in the game filter. Can you post your entire .pk3?
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Re: Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Formic.Sapien » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:06 am

No problem:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=18GZc8JJDKLk905S7kFi2vMEkcLJKZvvW

I tried another person's weapon pack (didn't edit it at all), and it didn't work either.

It's possible that it's the VERSION of GZDoom. A reddit user (Fish_Biter) released a version that runs VR with OpenVR tracked controllers. Here's his post: https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamVR/comments/8q12au/doom_vr_with_motion_controls/
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Re: Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Graf Zahl » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:58 am

You should remove that intermediate HereticVRWeapons folder. The zip loader cannot decide in this case whether to treat it as a container or as a genuine part of the mod.
But even after that I do not see any models. They are just empty, it seems.
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Re: Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Formic.Sapien » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:33 pm

I'll follow your first suggestion. So when you boot them up, does the base frame for the crossbow show? Is it possible that someone borked the code, and 3D weapons scale 100 times smaller or something? We know it's worked in the past or people wouldn't have made weapon packs. Here's a youtube video from 3 years ago that has 3D weapon models: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9b8hpEKHLs

So are 3D weapons in Heretic a lost cause then?

EDIT: Here's a 3D weapon pack that won't work either: https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=http://files.dengine.net/packs/jhrp+psy-20100928.pk3
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Re: Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Formic.Sapien » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:28 pm

Should I give up on this? Can anyone help?
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Re: Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Formic.Sapien » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:20 am

Reddit user u/migcar demostrated that VOXEL models work (KVX files). I tried it out and they show up just fine. Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/8ru231/achtung_wolfenstein3d_in_vr_now_with_guns/e0waukt/

What's going on?
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Re: Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Graf Zahl » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:59 am

I think you better ask in the Editing forum. The normal modders which may be able to help you normally do not visit the Tech Issues forum.
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Re: Can't get 3D models to show up with Heretic!

Postby Formic.Sapien » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:49 am

K thanks! I'll do that, and thanks for you input!
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