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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby Nash » Sun May 10, 2020 3:21 pm

Rowsol wrote:
AL-97 wrote:Recently I've been playing the Faspons mod with Nash's Gore and noticed that Hell Knights, Barons and Cacodemons do not spawn any blood effects. You can get a bloody wall decal if you to shoot a monster in front of a wall, but they do not summon any flying blood effects regardless of whatever weapon you are to use on them. Is there any edit I can do to fix this?


Just comment out
BloodType "GreenHitBlood"
From the hellknight and the same line from the other actors.


No, there's no need to edit Fastpons. This is what the BLUDTYPE feature is for (it's been available to NashGore since the v0.9 beta!). Sad that I took the effort to implement this but it's not known. :'( It's written in the OP as well as on the Github page.

Anyway, what you do is create a file called BLUDTYPE.txt and list down the actor names whose blood types you want to override. In this case, you will write on each separate line, the name of the actors in Fastspons which have custom blood typed.

You can see the attachments on the first page on how to do this because I've uploaded a sample for Smooth Doom that fixes the same issue.
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby AL-97 » Sun May 10, 2020 3:54 pm

Thank you for the explanation, Nash. My mistake not reading the OP properly.
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.0 OFFICIAL RELEASE

Postby De-M-oN » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:39 pm

Nash wrote:[imgur]https://i.imgur.com/DTwfpn1.gif[/imgur]
[imgur]https://i.imgur.com/Qf8OYit.gif[/imgur]

NashGore Did It First(tm)

Is this still a thing? Seems not to happen in my game.
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.0 OFFICIAL RELEASE

Postby ate0ate » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:42 pm

De-M-oN wrote:Is this still a thing? Seems not to happen in my game.

It was a feature in the github builds. Quite nice really. I keep hoping Nash opens the github repo back up myself as well. I have a copy I was lucky enough to have stuck in a folder but if I lose it, I cannot replace it:(
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby Nash » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:07 am

It will be in NashGore Vengeance v1.1 which was supposed to be released but I got busy with IRL crap. Patience. :)
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby ate0ate » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:03 am

Please, take all of the time that you need. Impatience was not what I meant to convey, just anticipation lol. You can't rush greatness:)
That bloodslide is a truly fun effect by the way. It makes certain things feel quite satisfying, like power punching pinkies in the Golden Souls 3 demo for example.
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby null9052 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:36 pm

Suggestion: Add an option to force only flying gibs, a la quake
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby DrR0Ck » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:06 pm

I have what is hopefully not a too basic question. I would like to use the bludtype feature to allow this mod's gore to replace/override the blood from another mod, but I don't know how to determine the actor class names. Are you able to point me to where I need to look to determine this information? Specifically, I am using Beautiful Doom and want to amp up the gore. I have poked around in both the Smooth Doom mod for which you provide the example as well as in the Beautiful Doom mod, but I am not seeing anything that stands out as the needed info.

Thanks!
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby Nash » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:18 pm

You'll have to open said mod files in SLADE or something and look for anything that 'replaces Blood' in general. Unfortunately there's no standardized way for this because different mod authors have different coding styles, resulting in the files you need to look for just being all over the place. It can be quite the hunt. :)

I am considering making a "community updated" BLUDTYPE project where the file is publicly editable and users can freely update it to cover as many popular mods as possible... I wonder if this is an idea people could jump on?
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby DrR0Ck » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:40 am

Thanks for the response. At least I don't feel to silly for not knowing how to find that info. This said, I seem to be at least getting some gore effects from Nash's Gore Mod without changing anything in BD. I'll see if I can do some digging into Slade, time permitting. I'm more of a player than a modder/mapper, so little to no experience with these tools - at least not since 20+ years ago when I took some stabs at map creation.

The community updated bludtype sounds like a really great idea. When/if I get a handle on Beautiful Doom, I'll post my findings.

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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby sibullski » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:07 pm

DrR0Ck wrote:I have what is hopefully not a too basic question. I would like to use the bludtype feature to allow this mod's gore to replace/override the blood from another mod, but I don't know how to determine the actor class names. Are you able to point me to where I need to look to determine this information? Specifically, I am using Beautiful Doom and want to amp up the gore. I have poked around in both the Smooth Doom mod for which you provide the example as well as in the Beautiful Doom mod, but I am not seeing anything that stands out as the needed info.

Thanks!


I made a bludtype for beautiful doom a little while ago and I literally just copied everything I could from the files so I might have some things listed that I don't need but anywhere here you go.

BD_BloodyFootPrint
BD_Blood
BD_BloodPool
BD_SSGibControl
BD_GibBlood
BD_GibBloodPool
bdoom_blood
bdoom_gibs
bdoom_nobossgibs
bdoom_livegibs
AniBloodPool
TestBlood
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby DrR0Ck » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:47 pm

sibullski wrote:
DrR0Ck wrote:I have what is hopefully not a too basic question. I would like to use the bludtype feature to allow this mod's gore to replace/override the blood from another mod, but I don't know how to determine the actor class names. Are you able to point me to where I need to look to determine this information? Specifically, I am using Beautiful Doom and want to amp up the gore. I have poked around in both the Smooth Doom mod for which you provide the example as well as in the Beautiful Doom mod, but I am not seeing anything that stands out as the needed info.

Thanks!


I made a bludtype for beautiful doom a little while ago and I literally just copied everything I could from the files so I might have some things listed that I don't need but anywhere here you go.

BD_BloodyFootPrint
BD_Blood
BD_BloodPool
BD_SSGibControl
BD_GibBlood
BD_GibBloodPool
bdoom_blood
bdoom_gibs
bdoom_nobossgibs
bdoom_livegibs
AniBloodPool
TestBlood


Thanks for posting this. Definitely works and if you were overinclusive, it does not appear to have any ill effects. I guess I'll have to learn Slade another time!
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby sibullski » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:34 pm

you're welcome
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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby DrR0Ck » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:06 pm

Two quick related questions:
1 - Has anyone set up cblood files for Heretic and/or Hexen?
2 - I noticed in the Beautiful Doom notes that Nash Muhandes is credited with a gzdoom function "CopyBloodColor()" that on its face seems to allow blood color to be copied in some fashion from the source sprite -if this is usable, why is the cblood file needed to define color, when the mod could leverage the CopyBloodColor() function?

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Re: Nash's Gore Mod: Vengeance Edition v1.01 HOTFIX

Postby Nash » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 pm

DrR0Ck wrote:Two quick related questions:
1 - Has anyone set up cblood files for Heretic and/or Hexen?
2 - I noticed in the Beautiful Doom notes that Nash Muhandes is credited with a gzdoom function "CopyBloodColor()" that on its face seems to allow blood color to be copied in some fashion from the source sprite -if this is usable, why is the cblood file needed to define color, when the mod could leverage the CopyBloodColor() function?

Thanks!


CopyBloodColor was an engine feature I added which was meant to be used by NashGore and also a new version of CBlood but of course some other mod got to it first (I got busy with other projects that left me with little time to debut said engine features).
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