[WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?

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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby JustinC » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:04 am

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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby Blox » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:00 am

Well, the main reason to why I usually do things the (speed > (quality^2)) way, is because I'd like to have a release date (at least for the demon) in a couple of months.
The only obstacle is me, myself - and my random waves of motivation (and skill). Some times I might make a sprite in a day, while other times it's skipped to weeks. Hopefully that won't happen again, as I kinda lost speed after that.

I better start work on the next sprite, and close the holes when I'm done. ..I skipped two sprites as of now, but I'll wait until I'm done with the rest of the rotations. So that if I improve again, I'll have to remake two sprites less.
Though I'm in a bit of a decision trap between the baron, and the archvile as my next sprite set. Guess time will tell.
I'm done bumping this, at least for a while now. :P
At least I have two bottles of Pepsi to make the process more enjoyable. B)


Edit: Heh, I adore criticism. Which is why I'm drawing most of the small details now. I'm trying to be fast because, it's more challenging to make good sprites at a fast rate, which slowly enough develops into better speed/quality ratios. Which is a good thing I guess, and I have no artsy talents whatsoever. I'm just a very (read: very) fast learner. Although that's a case of knowledge, the more I know - the faster I learn. Which kinda explains how I suddenly became great at English. (I don't know a damn about German though, so the progress is at snail speed.)
So for me, knowledge really IS power. [/shamelessusageof'knowledgeispower']
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby JustinC » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:03 am

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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby Mtzfire » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:42 pm

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EDIT: The knee has been moved into the shin??? XD Just look closely. His leg is bent, that's why his knee is so low. All there is to fixing that is shading, and done.
Well I know MY sprites need some quick edits, but the Demon is looking perfect, I'd rather not see him filled in random spots and stains.
@Blox, there is that huge difference between the first and rest Demon sprites, though, could you edit or redo the front angle?
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby Blox » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:09 pm

I'll do it when I'm finished with the current, and next rotation. (*4*6, then *5)
Because then I'll most likely reach some (read: some) kind of artistic limit. And then I'm going to remake all the 'unfitting' walking sprites. Which HOPEFULLY, should have a consistent level of detail.

Also, don't let me take my time to make sprites..
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby Mtzfire » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:20 pm

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EDIT: Also, I didn't know he had bloodstains on his leg, it looks like... gore, but that can be changed...
EDIT2: I need to know the marine's boot color, if it isn't red as I made it. Is is a grey-brown color like those in the Doomguy?
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby Miracle Man » Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:41 pm

It's the same as the former human. Little red shoes or low boots and blood stains.
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby Mtzfire » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:51 pm

NOTE: Okay, so, I tried getting some serious detail and realism effect on the sprites we make, but it's still just an
experiment of mine. So I transformed Pelle's Cacodemon, by adding shade and lights to make him detailed and
almost look 3D.

-Here's what I got:
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Was the transformation good?
(and yeah, took shitloads of time to make... but, whatever)
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby TheDoomGuy » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:12 pm

Mtzfire wrote:NOTE: Okay, so, I tried getting some serious detail and realism effect on the sprites we make, but it's still just an
experiment of mine. So I transformed Pelle's Cacodemon, by adding shade and lights to make him detailed and
almost look 3D.

-Here's what I got:
ImageImage

Was the transformation good?
(and yeah, took shitloads of time to make... but, whatever)


I think it looks good. Definitely something that's probably necessary so that everything doesn't look cartoony. As long as you make it consistent with the rest of the sprites.


Do you intend to make the weapon sprites hi-res as well? And what about the textures? Are you just going to use the hi-res texture pack with it?
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby JustinC » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:55 pm

Thats the ticket. :D
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby NeuralStunner » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:09 pm

Mtzfire wrote:Was the transformation good?
Definitely. ;)
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby Gez » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:22 pm

It's not bad, but it illustrates nicely another problem of these hi-res things: detail symmetry. When a low-res sprite is eerily symmetrical, it's not much of a problem because, hey, it's low-res, the fine details wouldn't appear. When a high-res sprite is entirely symmetrical, though, including little insignificant things like pock marks or wrinkle shadows, then it becomes too blatant IMO. (Perfect symmetry does not naturally happen. If you take someone's photography and retouch it with Photoshop or something to give that person's face a perfect symmetry, you get a clear uncanny valley effect.)
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby gh0st » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:04 pm

I agree on the symmetry bit, just needs a bit of variation and it would be excellent, its almost strange seeing these sprites in hi-res, it leads me to thinking, how the hell did they think up the cacodemons anatomy? Its a floating, plasma-spitting meatball with horns.
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Re: 4x Hi-res Sprites [WIP]

Postby SoulCrow » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:45 pm

If you look at the Cacodemon page on the Doom wiki, you can see that the sprite was cropped from an image of an Astral Dreadnought, a creature from AD&D so I don't think id Software paid much attention to the anatomy and just settled on something they thought looked pretty cool :P
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