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Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:06 am
by LordMordecai
Nevander wrote:Let's just say that we will all get to experience and fix anything that needs fixing (that I don't end up catching) together. I want it to be a community experience. :wink:
I think this is the best approach. I just can't wait to get my grubby hands on it! :twisted:

Nevander, I noticed you said that you plan on updating the lighting to make it more accurate in a future version 2. Are there plans for GZDoom to support the remaining D64 lighting fields (Floor, Ceiling, and Thing colors?)

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:36 am
by leodoom85
Well, if you have the latest dev build of GZDoom and the bugfix fork of GZDB by ZZYZX, it will look like this...
This is only an example...

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:27 am
by LordMordecai
Wow. I can't wait to see what sort of use this gets outside of Doom64 mods.

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:49 pm
by Nevander
LordMordecai wrote:Wow. I can't wait to see what sort of use this gets outside of Doom64 mods.
Exactly! That opens up the possibility for a lot more creativity with projects that aim to use cool lighting effects, not to mention more Doom 64 style mods and projects.

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:51 am
by Dude27th
When you say GZDoom did you mean 1.9 GZDoom or the fancy 2.X series ?

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:57 am
by Nevander
The minimum that I have tested on so far is 2.0.05 which is pretty ancient already. I haven't tried 1.8.6 or in between but they should work. Emphasis on should. As far as I know, I have not used anything that requires the latest and greatest, although some things won't work as intended on old versions such as sectors with multiple tags (only the first tag gets used) and some MAPINFO properties, but the game still runs, it just throws up some warnings about unknown properties.

Once I have made all the major changes, I'll try running it on older versions and report the results.

Do note however that going forward once I can fully integrate Doom 64 lighting properly, it will absolutely require 2.4.0, but you will always have the prior versions of the TC to use on older versions of GZDoom.

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:09 am
by DOOMGABR [RU]
It's very nice!

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:12 am
by leodoom85
Nevander wrote:The minimum that I have tested on so far is 2.0.05 which is pretty ancient already. I haven't tried 1.8.6 or in between but they should work. Emphasis on should. As far as I know, I have not used anything that requires the latest and greatest, although some things won't work as intended on old versions such as sectors with multiple tags (only the first tag gets used) and some MAPINFO properties, but the game still runs, it just throws up some warnings about unknown properties.

Once I have made all the major changes, I'll try running it on older versions and report the results.

Do note however that going forward once I can fully integrate Doom 64 lighting properly, it will absolutely require 2.4.0, but you will always have the prior versions of the TC to use on older versions of GZDoom.
Remember that image that I posted? That was GZDoom dev build from Feb 17 :)

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:06 am
by JohnnyTheWolf
The end of March is drawing near. Is everything going according to plan?

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:08 pm
by Shadelight
I think if the mod author had an update, he would've posted it by now.
Edit: That goes for every other post like Johnny's.

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:06 pm
by leodoom85
It's better to give him time to polish all the details that he needs and one of these days, he will give us a pleasant surprise :)

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:12 pm
by Nevander
Don't worry guys, we are on schedule. Putting in the last finishing touches and polish that I can find, I already found and fixed lots of bugs both minor and major. Some maps were even unfinishable due to multiple sector tags and only the first one being used in older versions of GZDoom. All of these spots should be fixed now.

The next update will be the first release. :)

Although there's no way I will be able to finish my new maps before release. I do have lots of ideas and hope to make each map grand and intricate to the extent that they all stand out and none of them are boring. This equates to time.

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:25 pm
by JohnnyTheWolf
leodoom85 wrote:It's better to give him time to polish all the details that he needs and one of this days, he will give us a pleasant surprise :)
Oh, I agree. It is just that I noticed there has not been an update in about a month or so and I was wondering about the mod's status.

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:35 pm
by wildweasel
JohnnyTheWolf wrote:
leodoom85 wrote:It's better to give him time to polish all the details that he needs and one of this days, he will give us a pleasant surprise :)
Oh, I agree. It is just that I noticed there has not been an update in about a month or so and I was wondering about the mod's status.
Even still, I really dislike seeing a "stale" thread suddenly popping back to life because someone asked "so uhhh any updates?" with nothing further to add. The mod author is by no means obligated to update the thread, and all bumping it accomplishes is confusing or irritating the people who thought the author actually had posted an update. Some would say to keep those questions to PM, but speaking as an author who has received at least a few such PMs, I don't really like that very much either. Basically, if it's going to come out, just let it come out instead of trying to urge the process along. If it's not, then oh well.

Re: [WIP] Doom 64: Retribution - Gameplay Video!

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:17 am
by Nevander
Okay guys! We are in business.

Just put everything together and I have a playable, finished state of the TC. Everything works for me perfectly in 2.0.05. I haven't gotten to testing 1.8.6 but I hope to do it later today. There are a couple very minor issues which I can't fix no matter what I do, which will be described in the readme file.

The final size of the mod by itself uncompressed is a mere 35 MB. If you add the Doom 64 soundfont (which is required for MIDI playback, and is also how I was able to save so much space) the final size together once again uncompressed comes to 40.3 MB!

Haven't zipped it yet to see the compressed size since I am holding off for last minute adjustments.

I hope to make a launch trailer of sorts and have it ready by release.