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[Release] Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2 v07

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:22 am
by RV-007
Seeing that my efforts to bring general online support to the recent zdoom codes/scripts, I moved on.
This wad allows the Icon of Sin to personally attempt to grill your ass. Two wads for both offline and Skulltag. If you got questions/comments, ask on this thread. Yes, the parent/child relationship script between bossbrain, raileyes, and fireybreath actors/objects is still under development.

Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3531217/zdoomfo ... om2v07.wad
Below is a link of a sample sprite for the upcoming sin spawns:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3531217/zdoomfo ... _skull.zip

Here are the screenshots:
Spoiler:
Notes + Standard:
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Re: [WIP] iconofsinbossfight_v00

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:38 am
by taufan99
cool mod so far. but after playing this mod, i don't like your way making him powered up. he was overpowered now, and with exception you are/were a super cheater, you almost can't beat him now. Invulnerability sphere is FULLY needed now.

Re: [WIP] iconofsinbossfight_v00

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:18 am
by Tapwave
Is that a modification of the original map or an edited bosseye that spawns a bunch of actors?
'cause if you just added actor to the base map, you'll need to take that down because it's not edited sufficiently.

Re: [WIP] iconofsinbossfight_v00

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:15 pm
by TerminusEst13
Looks like the former.

That aside, making the Icon of Sin into a true boss rather than just a summoner is a really nice concept, one that definitely deserves a chance. Editing the map itself isn't the best way to go about this, though, mostly because it renders it incompatible with hundreds of other mods.

Re: [WIP] iconofsinbossfight_v00

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:36 pm
by RV-007
taufan99 wrote:cool mod so far. but after playing this mod, i don't like your way making him powered up. he was overpowered now, and with exception you are/were a super cheater, you almost can't beat him now. Invulnerability sphere is FULLY needed now.

I know that the Icon of Sin is much tougher. This wad will most likely be for online (or not, depends).
terranova wrote:Is that a modification of the original map or an edited bosseye that spawns a bunch of actors?
'cause if you just added actor to the base map, you'll need to take that down because it's not edited sufficiently.

TerminusEst13 wrote:Looks like the former.

That aside, making the Icon of Sin into a true boss rather than just a summoner is a really nice concept, one that definitely deserves a chance. Editing the map itself isn't the best way to go about this, though, mostly because it renders it incompatible with hundreds of other mods.


That's a great idea to have the bosseye (there's only one, right?) to spawn the additional actors rather than to edit the map. That way, I don't have worry about combining other wads. Someone might want to use this idea on their own wad w/o editing the map as well. I hope that the bosseye actor won't respawn the actors. Changes will be done after two revisions.

Re: [WIP] iconofsinbossfight_v00

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:44 pm
by Tapwave
RV-007 wrote:That's a great idea to have the bosseye (there's only one, right?)

Depends on the map. I think plutonia 2's Gatekeeper has 5 or so spawners, and HR1's IoS has 3-5 spawner.

Re: [WIP] iconofsinbossfight_v00

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:51 pm
by RV-007
terranova wrote:
RV-007 wrote:That's a great idea to have the bosseye (there's only one, right?)

Depends on the map. I think plutonia 2's Gatekeeper has 5 or so spawners, and HR1's IoS has 3-5 spawner.


This is going to be a challenge, lol. Maybe the bossbrain will be more helpful. The bosseyes and bossbrains might have the same DoomEd # (http://www.zdoom.org/wiki/Standard_editor_numbers). For sure, I will try spawning the actors by map coordinates rather than offsets (hope this is possible). I think it would be easier to just make different actors (bosseyes/bossbrains) for different wads w/ the Icon of Sin. Will also provide proper names (to file and thread) so that people will know which wad to use.

Re: [WIP] iconofsinbossfight_v00

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:04 pm
by Xaser
@OP: One thing I can't help but noticing is that you keep using the wad filename as the thread title instead of the actual mod title, which looks weird as hell. Spaces exist for a reason. :P

Re: [WIP] Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2 Version 03

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:05 pm
by RV-007
Thread names will be fixed. New version of wad out (and in estimate of four hours); includes Skulltag version.
I'll get around Plutonia 2 and HR1 (the Eygptian Icon of Sin, right) soon enough.

Re: [WIP] Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2 Version 03

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:18 am
by Tapwave
RV-007 wrote:I'll get around Plutonia 2 and HR1 (the Eygptian Icon of Sin, right) soon enough.

Nope, PL2's is basically a giant 3d one that looks better, and the one from HR1 is basically the same than vanillia, just with added eyes.

Re: [WIP] Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2 Version 03

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:25 am
by printz
They're not eyes, they're foreheads.

Re: [WIP] Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2 Version 03

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:49 am
by Tapwave
Eyes as in Bosseye actors :p

Re: [WIP] Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2 Version 03

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:14 am
by RV-007
I can't say for Hell Revealed 1 b/c the final boss is just the same Icon of Sin (although I realize that having the rails and flames could help clear out some of the monsters [it's really a difficult map!]). I might get to Hell Revealed 1 later.
As for the Plutonia2 final boss, I can do. There are other (aesthetically different) final bosses like in the Plutonia2 Revisited Community Project; however, I myself won't provide the rail/flame/etc actors to any final boss. I feel that some final bosses don't cut it for me to give them additional powers. The reasons could be that the map is already difficult enough or that the appearance/wad isn't to my liking. I know it's opinionated, but if anyone wants to slap rail/flames on a boss, I won't stand in your way.

The GateWatcher boss in the Plutonia2 pwad is a real bitch to setup. The face popup wall/texture was hindering my original design to use railguns on each eye. I had to make compromise in replacing the rail attacks for a custom missile. I make up that flaw with occasional spawning of boss cube monsters that do RAIL attacks so that should somewhat fill my expectation.
Wad and information on GateWatcher boss in other thread: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31715

Re: [WIP] Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2 Version 03

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:20 am
by RV-007
Wouldn't you know it, but there is a similar IOS sprite from the Spear of Destiny title. This miniature IOS is impaled like John Romero's head. I think will call this sprite "Sin Spawn". From the brain of the IOS, these things appear and will try and nimble the player, lol. Will also be included for the GateWatcher.

See the link @ OP.

Re: [WIP] Icon of Sin Boss Fight for Doom 2 Version 03

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:37 pm
by Marine Infierno
When I read the title I thought it was the icon of sin in body ( although still very good idea 8-) )