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Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:46 pm
by Ghastly
So, I gather than in versions that have implemented this MapInfo change, absolutely NOTHING using MapInfo will work, until the MapInfo in question is fixed?

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:56 pm
by Enjay
No no no no! Old MAPINFOs are not broken. Existing mapinfos will work.

There is a new format available which makes it possible for daughter ports to add port specific keywords to their mapinfo definitions and for Zdoom to still start even though it does not recognise the keywords. Obviously such keywords will have no effect, but they won't stop Zdoom running.

The one exception is that there was a temporary situation which allowed you to add a GL_renderer section to a MAPINFO lump. If you have used that at all, it will need to be re-written to the new format. Otherwise, things are fine.

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:41 pm
by Ghastly
Okay. Sorry if that'd been asked, before. I was just making sure.

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:57 am
by Enjay
Ghastly_dragon wrote:Okay. Sorry


'sokay I wasn't trying to shout. I was just trying to make a very obvious statement at the top of the page so that people would see it and, I hope, get the correct information. :)

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:27 am
by Graf Zahl
Ghastly_dragon wrote:So, I gather than in versions that have implemented this MapInfo change, absolutely NOTHING using MapInfo will work, until the MapInfo in question is fixed?




General advice before getting a panic attack: Investigate the subject matter. And apply a bit of common sense: How smart would it be to break each and every single ZDoom WAD in existence? Right! None at all!

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:20 am
by Ghastly
Graf Zahl wrote:General advice before getting a panic attack: Investigate the subject matter.

Hence, my question. I was investigating, before I paniced. ;)

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:50 am
by Graf Zahl
I consider making a wild assumption panicking... :mrgreen:

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:52 am
by Ghastly
Considering you had to release a conversion tool, not that wild an assumtion. :P

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:03 pm
by Graf Zahl
Ghastly_dragon wrote:Considering you had to release a conversion tool



I didn't have to! I just found it useful. :P

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:05 pm
by Nash
Graf Zahl wrote:How smart would it be to break each and every single ZDoom WAD in existence? Right! None at all!


Well, with my experience being a ZDoom user since 2001 - I can tell you that there is some certainty of a feature being broken with each new release... although most of the time, they would be fixed quickly.

I'm saying this to reinforce my worries that old MAPINFOs must be converted to the new format. But it's not an issure anymore since I already have answers. Just saying.

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:35 pm
by Enjay
Semi related to this tool, there was talk some time ago of a tool that could convert old style DECORATE decorations to the newer format. Did such a tool ever get made/ released?

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:25 am
by Graf Zahl
Not to my knowledge. But unlike MAPINFO old and new definitions can coexist in one DECORATE file so it's far less critical. You will never have to convert an entire set of definitions to make one change.

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:11 pm
by Ceeb
Er, retarded question, but how do I use this? I can't find any help files in it.

I opened it up in my hex editor to read the text strings (thinking there might be a clue there), but still no luck. If it's right under my nose, I'm sorry... :?

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:34 pm
by Enjay
It's right under your nose. ;) Just run it from the command prompt and it will tell you itself:

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Mapinfo converter
Usage: mapinfoconv <infile> <outfile>

Re: MAPINFO conversion tool

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:39 pm
by Ceeb
Damn, and I have a good nose, too. ;)

Thanks, Enjay. You're a lifesaver. :mrgreen: