Operation Apollyon v1.7: Anniversary Edition (11/01/21)

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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby Spaceman333 » Mon May 10, 2021 9:41 pm

Gave the newest version a spin and the new features are indeed sexy.

I really like how the Minigun looks and works. Feels intimidating and powerful.
Proxy mine looks cool and I like how it falls down to the floor. I originally thought of it being sticky to walls and enemies, but these work nicely.

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After playing some more, these thoughts came to me:
  • I actually now miss the M60 and kinda wish it could also exist alongside the new Minigun. M60 in the UF version was really useful by being immidiately effective - pull it out and instantly stunlock/devastatate groups or single targets with mildly explosive, yet safe bullets. Ammo use is quite efficient and controllable due to accuracy, low-ish rate of fire and each bullet being usable individually.

    The Minigun in the current format is cumbersome as a BFG weapon in comparison. I do love the spin-up feature, the mean look, firing sound tho.

    I think to work alongside the M60 - sharing the same ammo pool - the Minigun's speciality could be intense burst damage, coupled with wide projectile saturation. This would mean the price of spin-up delay and faster ammo consumption would pay off with much higher damage, bigger spread, more explosiveness radius.

    Between the M60 and Minigun, the choice for the player would be between efficient long range suppressing devastation VS close range spray of inaccurate excessive screen clearing rapid obliteration.

  • The Railgun's ammo sharing with the Minigun/M60 bothers me. It makes me hesitate using the railgun, since the M60 can save me from a tough situation more effectively and because the HEIAP ammo is rare.

    I'd love to change the Railgun to use Ice Ammo instead, inspired the by the Mercury Bow sniper rifle from the bungie game Oni, that is a lethal rifle that would fire super-cooled liquid mercury, with a sexy blue trail to go with it. It won't freeze, just fire a penetrating spear of icy liquid metal essentially.

    More so, I'm thinking adding wall-piercing - but mitigating it with limiting how many times the projectile could rip would be pretty good too.

  • The proxy mine seems to have occasional issues detecting targets, while also being slightly odd to not use the same shrapnel explosion as the regular bouncy grenade. I think the detection could be improve, the radius of detection increased, while essentially using the same explosive payload as the regular grenade.

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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby Dr_Cosmobyte » Mon May 10, 2021 9:54 pm

In addition, if you convert all your sounds to .ogg (Audacity can be useful here), you'll save basically half the sounds file size.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby LossForWords » Tue May 11, 2021 8:51 am

The proxy mine causes a lot of unintentional self damage with the shrapnel on. I'll see if i can fix it, but until then, it's off. I'll see about the other issues, too.

And i don't think i'll be adding wall-piercing to the railgun.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby alexdoomguy » Sun May 16, 2021 12:28 pm

my first public weapon mod. compatible with lzdoom, gzdoom and zandronum.

Hmmm, interesting, and this one should definitely work on Zandronum? huh?
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby LossForWords » Sun May 16, 2021 12:58 pm

Sorry, i forgot to remove that.
Thanks to the way mid-reload shotgun firing works, it's not ZD compatible.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby Karl515 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:27 am

An extracted and tidied up version of the mod.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fcntGsZQpddbh4DrqfYxnP3tW-5AB5US/view?usp=sharing
I made this for anyone who wants to see the inner workings of the mod or just want a neater/cleaner internal system.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby SaveTheDoomer » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:42 pm

I like the sprite artwork and the hud... one thing that i've noted is that the triple shotgun and a couple of other weapons ignore infiniteammo.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby Spaceman333 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:05 pm

Karl515 wrote:An extracted and tidied up version of the mod.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fcntGsZQpddbh4DrqfYxnP3tW-5AB5US/view?usp=sharing
I made this for anyone who wants to see the inner workings of the mod or just want a neater/cleaner internal system.


Are there any stat changes to the weapons in this one?

I'll probably use this clean up version as a base for the modifications I've thought about in this thread - when I get enough free time to do it.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby Karl515 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:06 pm

Spaceman333 wrote:
Karl515 wrote:An extracted and tidied up version of the mod.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fcntGsZQpddbh4DrqfYxnP3tW-5AB5US/view?usp=sharing
I made this for anyone who wants to see the inner workings of the mod or just want a neater/cleaner internal system.


Are there any stat changes to the weapons in this one?

I'll probably use this clean up version as a base for the modifications I've thought about in this thread - when I get enough free time to do it.


Nope, just the original files.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby Spaceman333 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:08 pm

Karl515 wrote:
Spaceman333 wrote:
Karl515 wrote:An extracted and tidied up version of the mod.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fcntGsZQpddbh4DrqfYxnP3tW-5AB5US/view?usp=sharing
I made this for anyone who wants to see the inner workings of the mod or just want a neater/cleaner internal system.


Are there any stat changes to the weapons in this one?

I'll probably use this clean up version as a base for the modifications I've thought about in this thread - when I get enough free time to do it.


Nope, just the original files.


Cool, thank you!
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby CherubCorps » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:53 am

As of late, this has become my go-to overpowered weapon mod. It doesn't reinvent the wheel, but by god, is it fun to play. Easily has the best flamethrower I've seen in a Doom mod. Special mention has to go out to the fire axe which is just amazing.

I do wish weapons did slightly less damage at times (Or there was an option to scale damage output). It's great with hard and slaughter maps, however the mod makes normal levels a bit too easy.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby Dr_Cosmobyte » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:24 pm

CustomDoom can be your friend. It might allow you to customize output damage. And i think somebody even resurrected the thread recently!
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby lizardcommando » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:05 pm

I can't believe I missed this mod. I just got around to playing around with it and I had a great time overall. It's not a super complicated or flashy mod, but the weapon animations are really smooth and sound effects add that extra oomph to them to make them feel powerful.

Overall, a fun mod worth checking out. Sometimes, simple is always better.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.6b: Endless Fantasy (02/05/21)

Postby Shadow_Wulfe » Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:56 pm

Love it so far. Trying it out with Switcheroom 1.

One question I have is how to activate the HUD? None of the options that I have tried seem to activate any sort of HUD.
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Re: Operation Apollyon v1.7: Anniversary Edition (11/01/22)

Postby LossForWords » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:04 pm

Try adjusting your hud size, that might be the problem.
On another note, guess who's back?
Finally updating this bad boy, with a rather substantial refurbishing, may i add.
Every weapon, save for the Napalm Cannon and Minigun, has been reshot, resprited and reorganized, sounds have been crunched down to .ogg, several glitches have been fixed, a few things changed here and there, the Minigun has a new altfire, and Zandronum compatibility has been properly restored (huh?), and the internals no longer look like a nightmare.
Have fun!

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