[0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode demons

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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Marisa Kirisame » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:01 am

crashed gzdoom?
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Netheritor » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:55 am

Yes.
Also, I forgot to add, it may because of my graphic card. But it's impossible.

So, My 4.5.0 GZdoom is crashed because the direct contact damage of the black hole, not the explosion.
command console 'god2' will not make it crash. Because no damage to player.
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Marisa Kirisame » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:52 am

I cannot reproduce this. Is it an actual crash or a VM abort?
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Netheritor » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:24 pm

Heeeh? Is it beacuse of my laptop then?
If I send a crash report, will it help?
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby wildweasel » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:35 pm

Netheritor wrote:Heeeh? Is it beacuse of my laptop then?
If I send a crash report, will it help?

If it generates a crash report, please post it. If it's just going to the console and giving the "Oopsie-woopsie!" message, take a screenshot and post that.
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Netheritor » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:27 am

Well, this is the report.
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Marisa Kirisame » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:18 am

Wonder if it may be some specific issue with the player being transported out of bounds by the kill script.

Edit: I reduced the vector to (32767,32767,0). Does it still happen now?
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Rachael » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:05 am

If you do manage to figure out this crash, please report it - mostly because ideally GZDoom should never fatal error like that, at most it should crash to the console if something is wrong with a mod.
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Netheritor » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:39 am

Grrrrr.... I hope it's just my laptop, but I don't really know what cause that. I only know what never causing the crash;

1. using command console 'god2' and go into the black hole will not make GZdoom crashed.
2. Having 'megasphere' (the sandwich) in the inventory also will not make the GZdoom crash, because it automatically teleported me to the start level.

Also, I think it's a bit random. When I play it again, sometimes I just immediately died, without crash.
Also, I have old laptop (but still new for me) with low graphic card and low RAM, does it also affecting the crash? (usually GZdoom just freeze or VM abort in this case)

Ah, yeah. It doesn't work. (you already updated in front page, right?)
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Marisa Kirisame » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:18 am

So it's not that, then. This is really odd though, as no one else has reported anything like this happening.

Edit: There's currently a gzdoom bug related to damagecount going negative and causing either a crash on windows, or VERY RAPID AWFUL damage flashing on *nix. I added a small "workaround" that caps the overflow, and it should prevent this in the meantime.
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Netheritor » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:59 pm

Thanks, it works.

Now, this is just a curious question. How can you make a weapon that destroy walls? It's similar to hideous destructor albeit the 'things' affected has some differences (yours can destroy doors, walls, a part of ceiling but still wall. HD can destroy elevators, doors, but not walls. OR some doors can be destroyed in SWWM but not in HD, and vice versa.)
Edit: NVM, I just know about omni-busting. And the most powerful wall-busting is 25 lead balls shot at once.

This is the 2nd weapon that make me "Huh?". The first is the 'actor destroyer' (bfg debug weapons called 'ionspray') from lsd (not even god2 survive).
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Marisa Kirisame » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:46 pm

I have made the I WANT DIE difficulty into a standalone minimod. Have fun making everything unbeatable.
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Netheritor » Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:20 am

Okay, test it in slaughterwads. This mod is slaughterwads killer. With Ynykron artifact (the BFG), in it's powerful settings, it can kill most enemies in the whole map with one shot. Tested it with Tartarus, ESP, Chillax (the old one, I think), nuts1 & nuts3.

Albeit in ESP I got godly and ghostly cacodemon; and in nuts3, even though I kill most enemies it still lag. Eh, I blame the map.

Play this in nuts and shooting with ynykron is like, I was cleaned by white holy fire and my sins are burned with orange and red damage number.

Ah yeah, will you add 'enemy description' in the library?
Also, what map you recommend to play this in multiplayer? (Even though I don't play multi, specs problem) I think a map that is slaughterwad or very big with lot of puzzle and traps; or maybe a map with hubmap style. I ask this because this mod can trade item between players.

The menu is nice BTW, read most of the lore, also the TO DO. Hope you can achieve that. For me this mod is tied to guncaster in almost everything.
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby Marisa Kirisame » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:17 am

OK I need to notify of this because it's a big change. Black shells are now acid dart rounds. The effect this has is slightly similar to the old "shit's on fire yo", but with hopefully less performance issues from fire and smoke and whatnot. Enemies still take damage over time that wears off and can spread the effect to stuff nearby all the same. The main issue though, is that it doesn't go away by stopping, dropping and rolling, so there's that. I may have made this far more dangerous in the process of finding a more performant alternative.
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Re: [0.9.10b] SWWM GZ: Cute robutt whomst love to explode de

Postby JohnnyTheWolf » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:08 am

Three letters: W-O-W

I am still in the process of figuring out all the gameplay mechanics; it is so wonderfully quirky and overpowered, and I love it! :wub:

One criticism, though:

I feel like the Spreadgun, the Wallbuster and the Eviscerator are all a bit too samey. I mean, sure, the Eviscerator uses an unique ammo type, but it ultimately pretty much acts as a shotgun, and to tell you the truth, once I get my hands on the Wallbuster, I just do not see any reason to ever touch the Spreadgun and the Eviscerator again. Meanwhile, I cannot help but wish the Doom chaingun could have been replaced by a (preferably non-explosive) rapid-fire weapon instead; while I am not particularly a fan of Unreal, I reckon even that game had the Stinger and the Minigun.

Also, a couple of suggestions:

1) If it has not been requested already, it would be helpful if the different ammunition types could be given their own library entry rather than having them explained in some of the weapons' entries.

2) Would it be possible to make pickups more visible? I do not know if it is because they are all voxels now, but they can be very difficult to see. I know there is always Item Sense, but it feels weird to have to hold a button just to be able to spot items in a Doom game.

3) Have you considered incorporating TehRealSalt's amazing Alternate take on Partial Invisibility mod to SWWM? It makes invisibility actually useful! It seems to be already compatible with SWWM, as I have been able to load it with your mod, but I just thought I would ask if it might be a worthy addition.

Oh yeah, and big props for those System Shock 2 sounds! :wink:
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