[0.2.1] Se7evidas (RPG mod for Doom) | Updated 2018/11/30

[Captain J]

Crap Crappo Crap... I played it for the moment but then i forgot reply... To give you some feedback and thoughts, of course. Anyway this mod is very impressive; has non-stop action, enemies are now decent and more aggressive and makes me to think and purchase what i truly need to handle the encounter. RPG style level up mechanism is also clever too! But now, here are my feedback;

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- I think the Classes are weak and has small ammo cap but Rifleman and Enforcer. Eventually i had to play the game with said classes to satisfy my tactical needs. Give another weapon to only Classes with insufficient ammo like Runner or EMT?

- What's up with some Loot items like Doom Alpha items and Fake weapons? Can i actually sell them or something? Because when i pick them up, the credit doesn't go up. And i can't even collect and sell them whatsoever.

Speaking of Fake weapons, they all looks functional and could use them whatever i like. But nope! Of course i can't use them. Would be less-confusing if they all looks reasonably broken, visually.

- Character/Shop Menu lacks some interaction sound effects. Would be nice and a bit fun to use if it has some.

- I can see that i leveled up after killing some enemies. But can i just see the collected EXP and next EXP one in the HUD, or maybe in the menu? Because... The Stat screen is not informatively filled enough.

- Glad someone found out that Medical item glitch. However, there's one problem that have been never told; you still can use your Medical items like Stimpack and Medikit although your health is full. Yeah, i know it sounds silly because you just can look at your HUD and how many HPs have dropped... But it can be in a pickle to check out if you're busy fighting the horde.

- Ammo items and Fake weapon items does not play its pickup sound effect. Including the Soulsphere.

- Mk-17 Conqueror Anti-Material Rifle's Cocking(Alt-Fire) Action ejects spent casing without consuming actual ammo and i can do it infinitely... Intentional?

- CX-10 Caesar Chaingun's Recoil is way too much... Worse than Quake 2's Machine gun. Is there any way to decrease the recoil? Like Aiming or Hip-firing?

- GTX-2 Mjolnir Ion Cannon prevents me to shoot when i'm near at the wall, even in mid-range. Although i never get damaged by its impact, or the explosion. It's pretty annoying when some enemies are near you and have to switch the weapon because i can't use it in front of them.

- How can i select the Grenade type of XPL-50 Thumper Grenade Launcher? I tried to search the Fire Mode keybind, but there was none... And yeah, i did looked up the Manual, in game.

- At Help Section, from Menu Screen, There's Font Test Page and i'm sure it wasn't intended to be there?

- Frag Grenade Just go through the enemy and does not play bouncing sound effect, So i kinda have some hard time knowing where it went to. Also it takes pretty long time to be Detonated, too. It feels like i'm fighting with a Time Bomb.

Now it's about the monsters.

- Enemies with guns usually don't drop weapons often. Even they do drop some, the amount is very, very small. So sometimes i have to unnecessarily search through the map for ammo or give up the savings for new weapon and some important items.

And the only thing Zombiemen drop is 9mm Ammo. Hope they can drop random ammo, too. Oh, also Chaingunner does not, i repeat, does not drop any ammo upon death.

- Manubus detects me very easily when near it and just gnaw down my health in few seconds. It's kinda unfair when you have to fight this thing in small room. Also its Flamethrower has no sounds, too.

And that's it! It's kinda hard to adapt, but it's Super Stimulating and the choice of buying stuff is very detailed yet informative. I also love the special effects and the zombies' voice as well. Seems like they still have their own personality, while being possessed by the evil!

I would like to see even more weapons to buy, but not with more ammo variants, though! This would make it even more complicated. Can't wait the completion of this mod.

[SeriousWeasle]

Great mod, I have had a lot of fun over the past few days, but I found some bugs after playing with the mod for a while.

Technical info
Game version: gzdoom-x64-g3.6pre-73-g0e6af7137
Mod version: 0.2
Load order: Se7evidas first and mappack after
Mappack on which all of this occurred: sf2012

Gameplay related
- The Empress would cast some sort of shield spell and remain invulnerable even after the effect wore off. This happens irregularly and only on a small percentage. Out of the 100 or so Empresses I encountered only 3-5 of them stayed invincible.
- Like Eggs pointed out as well, attempting to melee with a medkit or stimpack equipped results in your weapons disappearing.

Shop related
- In the shop the Butterfly has an option to specify an amount of this item being bought, you can't put it on a higher value than one but it feels kind of off with all the other weapons not having this option.
- When attempting to sell more than 16 Type A energy cells, the counter does not stop or go to 17, but instead jumps up to something like 288 and is stuck on that value. The same happens with Firebrand cells if you try to go higher than 11 and it jumps up to 256.

EDIT:
I forgot to say that when running the game in 21:9 the blursphere's shader only covers part of the screen. This is only applicable to the blursphere, the invulnerability works just fine.

[Captain J]

Hold on. You actually can sell something in this mod? Because i don't know how do sell them... Silly me. I would like to see some loots(like shotgun shells, weapons and Stimpack/Medikits) i have collected for that matter, but how?

[SeriousWeasle]

If you press the [Tab] key in the shop menu it switches from buy mode to sell mode, you can then pretty much sell everything you want.

[UnbornDecay25]

- Like Eggs pointed out as well, attempting to melee with a medkit or stimpack equipped results in your weapons disappearing.

THANK YOU! I lost my weapons at some point and I couldnt figure out how to replicate it, been fighting with the mod for two days trynna figure it out. Been trying to report that to Phantombeta

[phantombeta]

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Crap Crappo Crap... I played it for the moment but then i forgot reply... To give you some feedback and thoughts, of course. Anyway this mod is very impressive; has non-stop action, enemies are now decent and more aggressive and makes me to think and purchase what i truly need to handle the encounter. RPG style level up mechanism is also clever too!

Thanks!

- I think the Classes are weak and has small ammo cap but Rifleman and Enforcer. Eventually i had to play the game with said classes to satisfy my tactical needs. Give another weapon to only Classes with insufficient ammo like Runner or EMT?

EMT and Battle Medic are supposed to be somewhat fragile. The Runner and Infantry classes are supposed to come with more basic equipment so you can build your own arsenal from the ground up.

- What's up with some Loot items like Doom Alpha items and Fake weapons? Can i actually sell them or something? Because when i pick them up, the credit doesn't go up. And i can't even collect and sell them whatsoever.

As SeriousWeasle mentioned, you can press the Tab key to switch to Sell mode. You can sell loot items in the shop's "Loot" section.

Speaking of Fake weapons, they all looks functional and could use them whatever i like. But nope! Of course i can't use them. Would be less-confusing if they all looks reasonably broken, visually.

I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do about those. They aren't supposed to be broken, just locked to their original user.

- Character/Shop Menu lacks some interaction sound effects. Would be nice and a bit fun to use if it has some.

They do, indeed.

- I can see that i leveled up after killing some enemies. But can i just see the collected EXP and next EXP one in the HUD, or maybe in the menu? Because... The Stat screen is not informatively filled enough.

I don't wanna risk making the HUD too busy. I might add a key to quickly show your player info without going to the menu eventually. As for the stats screen, it'll eventually show more info, but I haven't figured out a good layout for it yet.

- Glad someone found out that Medical item glitch. However, there's one problem that have been never told; you still can use your Medical items like Stimpack and Medikit although your health is full. Yeah, i know it sounds silly because you just can look at your HUD and how many HPs have dropped... But it can be in a pickle to check out if you're busy fighting the horde.

The Stimpack is supposed to be usable at any time, as it increases regen rate for nearly a minute or so along with healing you slightly. This will likely be more useful once the slow passive regen upgrade is in. Right now it's only useful for healing faster with Medikits.

- Ammo items and Fake weapon items does not play its pickup sound effect. Including the Soulsphere.

I keep forgetting to add sounds for those, heh.

- Mk-17 Conqueror Anti-Material Rifle's Cocking(Alt-Fire) Action ejects spent casing without consuming actual ammo and i can do it infinitely... Intentional?

If you mean that you can waste your ammo by pressing altfire with a cartridge loaded, yes, it's intentional. It's meant for when you get a dud round, but it lets you always do it.
It should, of course, eject an entire cartridge, but I have no sprites for that. Those are the ".338LM" casings from your casings sprite sheet, though, so maybe you could make a version of those sprites with the bullet still in them?

- CX-10 Caesar Chaingun's Recoil is way too much... Worse than Quake 2's Machine gun. Is there any way to decrease the recoil? Like Aiming or Hip-firing?

It's supposed to have rather heavy recoil, yes. You can mitigate this in a few ways. The first is to use the lowest firing rate, which you can do by pressing the Fire mode key twice. The second is to increase your strength stat. It'll take quite a bit of stat points for it to be enough, but it decreases recoil slightly. In the next release you'll also be able to use the berserk to decrease recoil temporarily.

- GTX-2 Mjolnir Ion Cannon prevents me to shoot when i'm near at the wall, even in mid-range. Although i never get damaged by its impact, or the explosion. It's pretty annoying when some enemies are near you and have to switch the weapon because i can't use it in front of them.

If it's not letting you fire, that means you're close enough it'd blow you to bits if you could.

- How can i select the Grenade type of XPL-50 Thumper Grenade Launcher? I tried to search the Fire Mode keybind, but there was none... And yeah, i did looked up the Manual, in game.

Press the fire mode key to select a grenade type you currently have, then press reload to load grenades of that type into the gun. You can interrupt the reload by pressing the reload key again.

- At Help Section, from Menu Screen, There's Font Test Page and i'm sure it wasn't intended to be there?

Fixed.

- Frag Grenade Just go through the enemy and does not play bouncing sound effect, So i kinda have some hard time knowing where it went to. Also it takes pretty long time to be Detonated, too. It feels like i'm fighting with a Time Bomb.

The grenades have a three and a half seconds fuse. If you need a grenade to explode faster than that, you can press altfire to cook it.
Just don't forget to throw

- Enemies with guns usually don't drop weapons often. Even they do drop some, the amount is very, very small. So sometimes i have to unnecessarily search through the map for ammo or give up the savings for new weapon and some important items.

The Shadow Corps Hunter (the shotgun guy replacement) used to drop their gun more often, but that ended up being too much, as it allowed you to earn way too much money from selling their guns.

And the only thing Zombiemen drop is 9mm Ammo. Hope they can drop random ammo, too. Oh, also Chaingunner does not, i repeat, does not drop any ammo upon death.

They all use the same weapon, so it'd be weird if they dropped non-9mm ammo. And yeah, it doesn't. Right now most of the Doom 2 monster replacements are either unfinished or not implemented at all.

- Manubus detects me very easily when near it and just gnaw down my health in few seconds. It's kinda unfair when you have to fight this thing in small room. Also its Flamethrower has no sounds, too.

As mentioned before, most of the Doom 2 monster replacementss are unfinished or not implemented.

And that's it! It's kinda hard to adapt, but it's Super Stimulating and the choice of buying stuff is very detailed yet informative. I also love the special effects and the zombies' voice as well. Seems like they still have their own personality, while being possessed by the evil!

Thanks.

I would like to see even more weapons to buy, but not with more ammo variants, though! This would make it even more complicated. Can't wait the completion of this mod.

There's actually quite a few more weapons planned that haven't been added yet.

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Gameplay related
- The Empress would cast some sort of shield spell and remain invulnerable even after the effect wore off. This happens irregularly and only on a small percentage. Out of the 100 or so Empresses I encountered only 3-5 of them stayed invincible.

That's weird. I'll add some code to try to fix it.

Shop related
- In the shop the Butterfly has an option to specify an amount of this item being bought, you can't put it on a higher value than one but it feels kind of off with all the other weapons not having this option.

You're supposed to be able to buy two Butterfly SMGs. Then it'll automatically swap them if you run out of ammo and dryfire. Or you can press the Change Fire Mode key to dual wield them.[/quote]
Probably the same bug as the next one.

- When attempting to sell more than 16 Type A energy cells, the counter does not stop or go to 17, but instead jumps up to something like 288 and is stuck on that value. The same happens with Firebrand cells if you try to go higher than 11 and it jumps up to 256.

Ugh. I should have tested that fix better.

EDIT:
I forgot to say that when running the game in 21:9 the blursphere's shader only covers part of the screen. This is only applicable to the blursphere, the invulnerability works just fine.

Yeah, somewhat oddball resolutions and aspect ratios like 21:9 are unlikely to play nice with the blursphere. That's because it's actually a camera texture, not a shader, and the size (and, by extension, aspect ratio) of those is defined in ANIMDEFS, which means I can't change it based on the user's resolution and aspect ratio.

[Captain J]

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I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do about those. They aren't supposed to be broken, just locked to their original user.

Maybe you can make them look unusable in both ways; Make them spawn some kind of icon showing X mark or Money mark to enlighten the player that those are not functional, but can be sold. Or put additional information why they cannot be used at their pickup message. I know you can look at the info at the Armory, but what i mean is show them immediately.

The Stimpack is supposed to be usable at any time, as it increases regen rate for nearly a minute or so along with healing you slightly. This will likely be more useful once the slow passive regen upgrade is in. Right now it's only useful for healing faster with Medikits.

- Yeah, i get it now. But now let's talk about the Healing Potion. Its max amount is 2000. Small or not, few of them are sufficient enough to be refilled and you just can use them very quickly than Medical Items, at any time. Also it's everywhere because it replaces Health Bonus. Kinda makes Stimpack/Medikits a bit obsolete or is it just me? Perhaps you should decrease the volume of the Potion items to keep the Balance.

If you mean that you can waste your ammo by pressing altfire with a cartridge loaded, yes, it's intentional. It's meant for when you get a dud round, but it lets you always do it.
It should, of course, eject an entire cartridge, but I have no sprites for that. Those are the ".338LM" casings from your casings sprite sheet, though, so maybe you could make a version of those sprites with the bullet still in them?

- Oh Whoopsies... I forgot. It DOES Wastes Live ammo. But still, maybe it's intentional but that just sounds pretty betraying to beginners or confusing people just like me. And my thought here, but that could waste their precious momentum and ammo. And i see you already put bullets on those casing sprites, as you can see the HUD. Spriting live rifle round won't be so hard, is it? Or was it edited by someone else?

The grenades have a three and a half seconds fuse. If you need a grenade to explode faster than that, you can press altfire to cook it.
Just don't forget to throw

- Just like in old times. Got it. However letting it pierce through the enemy like nothing and without giving them a damage is still comical to me.

The Shadow Corps Hunter (the shotgun guy replacement) used to drop their gun more often, but that ended up being too much, as it allowed you to earn way too much money from selling their guns.

- Oh, sorry about that! I just misinformed about this. What i meant to say was Ammo. Their Dropped Ammo. It gives very small amount of ammo and yet they're not diverse. So i have to buy different ammo in the Armory and it's like a chore.

They all use the same weapon, so it'd be weird if they dropped non-9mm ammo. And yeah, it doesn't. Right now most of the Doom 2 monster replacements are either unfinished or not implemented at all.

But... But that Bulk Chaingun dude's sprite actually has Chaingun as a Weapon? With Ammo belt even! Would be nice if you can replace his Chaingun into Rifle or some sort of. I'm certain there are some certain Sprites out there.

Anyway thanks about the info! I seriously forgot about the Extra sell info below the armory menu. Also hey, Ion Cannon DOES kills me. Just tested it out by typing Freeze in the Console. It turns out i somehow haven't deactivated the God mode. Derp...

[phantombeta]

- Yeah, i get it now. But now let's talk about the Healing Potion. Its max amount is 2000. Small or not, few of them are sufficient enough to be refilled and you just can use them very quickly than Medical Items, at any time. Also it's everywhere because it replaces Health Bonus. Kinda makes Stimpack/Medikits a bit obsolete or is it just me? Perhaps you should decrease the volume of the Potion items to keep the Balance.

It is a bit OP, yeah. I made the canteen refills spawn more often and contain more stuff a bit before the first release of the mod, so I haven't had the time to really balance it. It's supposed to be something you can use if you need to heal right now, but that you shouldn't rely on for healing all the time.

And i see you already put bullets on those casing sprites, as you can see the HUD. Spriting live rifle round won't be so hard, is it? Or was it edited by someone else?

The sprites on the HUD actually come from your casing spritesheet. You added versions with bullets for the upright, perspective-less versions, but not for the versions with perspective.
This is the spritesheet I'm talking about. It's in your resources thread, under the "Little bit Twitched Other people's Weapon 'n Ammo Sprites" spoiler.
You can see it doesn't have versions with bullets of these circled sprites:

- Oh, sorry about that! I just misinformed about this. What i meant to say was Ammo. Their Dropped Ammo. It gives very small amount of ammo and yet they're not diverse. So i have to buy different ammo in the Armory and it's like a chore.

Ah. I've already changed it so they drop whatever they have loaded in their weapon when they died, so in the next release they should drop a bit more ammo sometimes.

But... But that Bulk Chaingun dude's sprite actually has Chaingun as a Weapon? With Ammo belt even! Would be nice if you can replace his Chaingun into Rifle or some sort of. I'm certain there are some certain Sprites out there.

Oh. I thought you meant that the Zombieman replacement should drop random types of ammo instead of just clips. The Chaingunner replacement does indeed have a machinegun, and it'll drop some ammo once I finish the chaingunner.

[will183]

What classes use what weapons?
and can they use the AK-47 or Super shotgun or what?

[SeriousWeasle]

What classes use what weapons?

Runner: Kronos SMG and some grenades, can double jump and has some medical supplies
EMT: Deathbringer revolver and some grenades, can double-jump and has some medical supplies
Battle Medic: Same as EMT, except has no double jump and starts with more ammo and medical supplies
Infiltrator: Same as Runner but gets a Manx Carbine in stead of grenades and both weapons are silenced
Infantry: Raptor Pistol, some grenades and some medical supplies
Rifleman: Mars assault rifle, Raptor pistol, some grenades and some medical supplies
Enforcer: Lucifer 20 Gauge shotgun, Deathbringer revolver, some grenades and some medical supplies

and can they use the AK-47 or Super shotgun or what?

Yes, just assign the "Player Menu" control to a key and assign them under "Weapon Assignment"

[-Ghost-]

Any chance of a more classic pump shotgun making it in? The ones you have are cool, but that first shotgun you can get doesn't really feel like it fits progression-wise, like it's stronger than a starter shotgun, if that makes sense. It'd be nice to have a regular pump shotgun initially, then work up to the other 2 types as you get more credits.

[phantombeta]

Any chance of a more classic pump shotgun making it in? The ones you have are cool, but that first shotgun you can get doesn't really feel like it fits progression-wise, like it's stronger than a starter shotgun, if that makes sense. It'd be nice to have a regular pump shotgun initially, then work up to the other 2 types as you get more credits.

I don't really want to add a single-barrel pump-action shotgun, myself - it would be pretty much made completely useless by the Lucifer double-barrel pump-action SG and the double-barrel break-action SG.
There's also not many angled shotgun sprites with reloading sprites that fit well, unfortunately.

[phantombeta]

I really ought to post some updates or dev logs/videos here from time to time...
So here's some videos:



I might make some dev logs if enough people want them...

[StroggVorbis]

Will you be able to load different grenades at the same time? In the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games you could load any combination of buckshot, slugs and dart rounds into either the Mossberg Maverick 88 or SPAS-12

[phantombeta]

Will you be able to load different grenades at the same time? In the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games you could load any combination of buckshot, slugs and dart rounds into either the Mossberg Maverick 88 or SPAS-12

Yup! This grenade launcher and its 7 or so ammo types were already in the very first release, too, I just made some changes to the explosion effects and damage so that it felt better.