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Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:56 pm
by dljosef
Found that Chaos Mode's working fine.

I'll be looking forward to whatever's next. (Neat icon, by the way.)

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:26 pm
by Brohnesorge
Excellent. With that fixed, I can safely say this is one of my favorite monster mods.

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:51 pm
by dljosef
For the weapon pack equivalent to this mod, I say the pistol start enforcement's necessary to avoid the whole "me-too" trap.

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:26 pm
by Whoah
Do you happen to have a playable beta or anything for the weapon mod, Cyanide? I'd love to test it.

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:26 pm
by Cyanide
dljosef wrote:For the weapon pack equivalent to this mod, I say the pistol start enforcement's necessary to avoid the whole "me-too" trap.

Right now my prototype gun-mod rolls one time for a full play-through. So the weapons will not change every map.

Also, what's the "me-too" trap?
Whoah wrote:Do you happen to have a playable beta or anything for the weapon mod, Cyanide? I'd love to test it.

I've only made one weapon for every slot. I'd like to at least make 2-3 variants for each weapon before I release anything. But I'll try to remember to PM you when that's done, if you want me to. :)

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:53 pm
by Whoah
Yeah, that works!

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:06 pm
by dljosef
The "me-too" trap is when two different sets of weapons for the same weapon tier are identical in terms of function. (At least that's how I see it.)

Well, I suppose the once-per-playthrough thing'll work fine. But what if the level set in question split the maps into episodes? (Like Valiant, for instance? Particularly the vaccinated edition that allows mod compatibility)

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:19 pm
by Doctrine Gamer
Brohnesorge wrote:Excellent. With that fixed, I can safely say this is one of my favorite monster mods.


It has become my favorite pack of enemies for me as well.

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:10 pm
by Cyanide
dljosef wrote:The "me-too" trap is when two different sets of weapons for the same weapon tier are identical in terms of function. (At least that's how I see it.)

Well, I suppose the once-per-playthrough thing'll work fine. But what if the level set in question split the maps into episodes? (Like Valiant, for instance? Particularly the vaccinated edition that allows mod compatibility)

Thanks for the info.
For your question - I guess I'll have to make an option to retain weapons through multiple new games (if it's possible).

On a more general note - I have only just started tinkering with the weapon mod I've mentionen. Until I've made a new post way in the future, I'd like to keep this post to the topic it's intended for. :) I do dig the enthusiasm though, so feel free to PM me if you wan't to give suggestions to the weapon mod. Thank you all.

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:49 pm
by Doctrine Gamer
Will this weapons pack be skins like this mod? Cool idea .... Shade of Weapons?

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:35 am
by Someone64
Why are the patches for Eriguns necessary? Are these for the older non-zscript versions of them? The current 2.0.0 versions don't really replace any monsters it seems. It uses a unidrop script to drop stuff from any custom Masterminds and Cybies.

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:33 am
by Cyanide
Someone64 wrote:Why are the patches for Eriguns necessary? Are these for the older non-zscript versions of them? The current 2.0.0 versions don't really replace any monsters it seems. It uses a unidrop script to drop stuff from any custom Masterminds and Cybies.

I've just tested both Eriguns 1 & 2 with the latest GZDoom devbuild, and it seems that my mod clashes with both of them, preventing Masterminds and Cybers from dropping weapons. When playing with the patch, everything works just fine. I just realized that choosing between standart and extendet arsenal in Eriguns 1 doesn't work with my mod, though. So if you want the standart arsenal, don't load the patch...

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:43 am
by Gorec
some revenants shoot missiles way too low(fiend shoots from his hips)
also jimmy s jukebox doesnt work with this for whatever reason,when the level starts music stop and when you go to jukebox map to change things you cant its not working

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:41 am
by Cyanide
Gorec wrote:some revenants shoot missiles way too low(fiend shoots from his hips)

Thanks. Will be fixed for next release.
Gorec wrote:also jimmy s jukebox doesnt work with this for whatever reason,when the level starts music stop and when you go to jukebox map to change things you cant its not working

Hmmm. I have no idea why that happens. I'll have to take a look at the Jimmy's Jukebox code to see if I can figure it out.

Re: Shades of Doom v1.0.2 - Chaos Mode fixed... I think

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:15 am
by Gez
The issue with the jukebox is the issue you get into any time different ACS libraries have global variables. They use the same and mess up with each others' values.