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Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:09 pm
by kadu522
Well i think that the hit slo-mo should use the normal poll since by that time you want slo-mo on anyway to well... live :lol:

Also the death slo-mo should be permanent or a specific time frame (say 5 real time seconds).

This removes the need for a secondary poll and by consequence 50% less code (me thinks).

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:38 pm
by Apeirogon
Finaly a can walkthrough okuplok/holly_hell/other sunder with sf2011/etc, without TAS, by hand.

And yes, at some setting timefreeze dont start. I think its because too short time to react for script.

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:40 am
by Spaceman333
A quick progress update.

I've figured out the design and code of the new features and written it down, so now all that is left is a sanity check through 500 lines of code to make sure there are no mistakes and then I can start testing it ingame.

Spoiler: "glorious spaghetti hell"


IRL has been busy for me in the last days, so don't expect a release too fast. I'm doing this in my free time whenever I can.

kadu522 wrote:Well i think that the hit slo-mo should use the normal poll since by that time you want slo-mo on anyway to well... live :lol:

Also the death slo-mo should be permanent or a specific time frame (say 5 real time seconds).

This removes the need for a secondary poll and by consequence 50% less code (me thinks).


Nah, doing that would have some design flaws that would make the mod crappy. What if I use up all my slomo points and then die? Suddenly death slomo has no slomo points to use for its dramatic effect. Same for all the others, it would create conflicts that would break the mod's enjoyability factor.

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:04 am
by Silentdarkness12
Testing? Woooo, that means that release might not be that far off.

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:44 pm
by kadu522
Well i actualy never said that the death slo-mo uses the normal poll there is no point.

i talked expecificly about the "you where hit slo-mo".

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:03 pm
by Spaceman333
Man, I'm getting swarmed by IRL lately. I really want to complete this update, but I just can't seem to catch a break lately. Its still relatively high priority up there on task list of things I want to complete and I don't think I'll put it off for more than a couple weeks, but IRL got me very busy by surprise for the time being.

I still got you on my mind Silentdarkness12 & kadu522. I feel sad I can't get around to completing this sooner, but I assure you I haven't forgotten about this.

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:47 pm
by Silentdarkness12
It's gonna be hard to play Doom without this addon lel.

Appreciate being remembered. I'll keep waiting.

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:07 pm
by johnny
Spaceman333 wrote:Man, I'm getting swarmed by IRL lately. I really want to complete this update, but I just can't seem to catch a break lately. Its still relatively high priority up there on task list of things I want to complete and I don't think I'll put it off for more than a couple weeks, but IRL got me very busy by surprise for the time being.


Definitely feel you on that my friend. Weeks can turn into months, but we're patient so don't sweat it. This is DOPE AFFFFFF btw, nice work.

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:38 am
by Frozsoul
Hi Spaceman333,

First of all, just wanted to say that I am a huge fan of your addon! Thank you for your time and dedication to it!

I've been reading comments about conditions upon which slow motion would automatically activate, and I was wondering if you had ever played Perfect Dark and it's Smart Slow Motion option? It was an awesome multi-player option where slow motion only occurs when you are sufficiently close to another player or simulant in combat mode. Otherwise, action moves at a brisk pace. For DOOM, I can see it activating automatically when you are sufficiently close to an enemy, or perhaps to just an alerted enemy.

Also, not sure if it is possible to reduce the speed of weapon switching and reloading while slow-motion is active? That's the way it works in Perfect Dark's Smart Slow Motion and it really gives that slo-mo feel to everything happening.

Thanks

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:06 pm
by PooshhMao
Excuse me if this has been asked already, but I'm really loving this mod since it bridges the gap between Doom and F.E.A.R., a game I love dearly.

One feature that would be great to have would be to lower the sound effect pitch in relation to the slowdown, but I'm guessing this is not trivial?

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:14 am
by armymen12002003
Nice job with this been currently playing this with wolfenstein infinity and epic 2

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:10 am
by Spaceman333
IRL is busier than ever and only now this week I managed to see if I could quickly complete the new version, since all it needed was testing.

Nope.

Turns out it has a whole host of new problems that require extensive troubleshooting, testing and fixing, including the new control method too.
  • New control system works, but has a new unique problem; I can freely set the flag for slomo to turn on while its not supposed to be activated, meaning slomo could be on cooldown, I hit slomo on button during cooldown, then as the cooldown completes the slomo will turn on right away automatically.
  • Main slomo and secondary slomo points are mixed up together.
  • Secondary slomo does not turn off properly.
  • Secondary slomo hud has lots of bugs and missing details to make it work right.
  • Smooth slomo movement requires a rework in how its handled within the code. Currently it has the same issue of being staggered like the freeze movement option.
  • Smooth slomo movement is also subpar as a whole, requiring all manner of wierd compensating balancing of various player parameters (walk speed, jump height, gravity, air control, weight) to achieve that hard to achieve smooth slowed down movement effect.
  • There is also a code oversight somewhere in the script that can cause the whole system to stop working for the remainder of the level I'm playing on.

The only part I'm happy about is that I got it to compile with GDCC and some of the features sort of work, thought in a poor way.
IRL is still ramping up to be crazy that I'll need to fully focus on that, so I'm going to be putting this project on hiatus for the time being. Its too complicated for me to handle with so much things going on in my life at the moment.

This the latest (broken) test version so far:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hJHtD ... PsKhIgXQzg
I'm only posting it if anyone feels brave enough to try to fix it while I deal with IRL. If you expect a fully polished mod, then avoid downloading this. It loads without crashing, but is broken in many way as listed above. Just use the regular R3 available in the OP for now.

PooshhMao wrote:One feature that would be great to have would be to lower the sound effect pitch in relation to the slowdown, but I'm guessing this is not trivial?


Depends if future version of GZDoom add the ability to override the sound reverb globally. Afaik the current version does not have this feature, so it not doable.

Frozsoul wrote:I've been reading comments about conditions upon which slow motion would automatically activate, and I was wondering if you had ever played Perfect Dark and it's Smart Slow Motion option? It was an awesome multi-player option where slow motion only occurs when you are sufficiently close to another player or simulant in combat mode. Otherwise, action moves at a brisk pace. For DOOM, I can see it activating automatically when you are sufficiently close to an enemy, or perhaps to just an alerted enemy.

Also, not sure if it is possible to reduce the speed of weapon switching and reloading while slow-motion is active? That's the way it works in Perfect Dark's Smart Slow Motion and it really gives that slo-mo feel to everything happening.


I've seen a similar feature in Soldat (2d multiplayer shooter game). In a multiplayer scenario, I felt it was more of a gimmick that was rarely used after the initial novelty wore off. Meanwhile in Doom's singleplayer with hundreds of monsters, encounters with varying range, setup and pace... I think the feature would do more harm than good for sustained play.

As for weapons switching and reload, unfortunately no, that one is one possible if the gameplay/weapon mod itself decides to do that natively, hand-crafting each frame to work in a slomo mode. Theres no easy programmatic way to make this work.

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:27 am
by Silentdarkness12
Well, that stings.

(don't suppose there's any chance that someone else can fix up the test version?)

EDIT: Just tested the newer, more broken things out. The test version is fully usable for normal purposes far as I can see, you should just never activate anything having to do with the Secondary Pool.

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:13 am
by kadu522
Well time to bump this tread :D

After playing with HD (Hideus destructor) mod. i noticed that useing weapon state keys for slo-mo way cause some problems with more complex mods.

While the mod itself works perfectly with no problems (useing the current stable) it has key overlap since all the guns in HD use all weapon-states in some way.
So is it posible to move the slo-mo to a exclusive key just for it. this would avoid control overlap problems.

I'm still useing this mod actively and i would love futher suport on this. :wub:

Re: Slomo Bullettime Ultimate (Universal Addon) [R3 Real Dea

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:18 am
by m8f
Hi!
First, Spaceman333, thank you for making your addons! Monster Scouter was the first thing that I began tinkering with, so I can say that you, without knowing it, led me into modding.

Second, I propose a feature to Slomo Bullettime: external activation:
Spoiler:

What will this feature bring? Two things:
1. Possibility to add custom keybindings.
2. Cross-mod support. With this new CVar, some other mod, if it is loaded alongside, could toggle Slomo Bullettime in some suitable moments.