Heretical Doom v1.5 - Cyberdemons and Maulotaurs, oh my!

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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby Ryuhi » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:48 pm

JasmairoQY wrote:"Melee Staff now has a new attack: Whirling Dervish!"
Doesnt execute if you are using the powered staff.

Also what did you "fix" with the tomed left click shot from the Phoenix Rod? i have to sustain fire for 10 seconds straight to even kill an Iron Lich


its not made for raw damage, especially vs bosses. The Phoenix Rod's powered fire was always supposed to be about crowd control and stunlocking consistently

as for the dervish, i'll likely add a powered version in the future, but for now, its unpowered only
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby JasmairoQY » Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:12 pm

You dont have access to the new Firemace Pod summoning if you have the "Access to all Altfires" option, it instead uses the old version which was just unpowered alt. Also the pods seem immune to be shot by the firemace itself, only the balls from the Phoenix + Firemace combo can damage the pods, everything else works.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby Ryuhi » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:23 pm

JasmairoQY wrote:You dont have access to the new Firemace Pod summoning if you have the "Access to all Altfires" option, it instead uses the old version which was just unpowered alt.


Hm, that's a bug, forgot to add an exclusion for how that CVAR works. should be an easy fix though.

Also the pods seem immune to be shot by the firemace itself, only the balls from the Phoenix + Firemace combo can damage the pods, everything else works.


Somewhat intentional. Those orbs shouldn't be able to detonate them either, so i'll have to go back and fix that as well.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby AvzinElkein » Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:05 pm

I assume that Heretical Doom Monsters is incompatible with Guncaster.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby Ryuhi » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:43 pm

AvzinElkein wrote:I assume that Heretical Doom Monsters is incompatible with Guncaster.


By itself, but it should work just fine with Dinosaur Nerd's awesome compatibility adapter
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby AvzinElkein » Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:51 pm

Dunno if this should count, but it seems that a minor goof appeared while loading (which shouldn't affect gameplay, but still): [Undefined drop item class CellBox referenced from actor DoomWindClaw] (loaded Heretical Doom then the monsters; same message played when loaded the other way)
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby Ryuhi » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:16 pm

AvzinElkein wrote:Dunno if this should count, but it seems that a minor goof appeared while loading (which shouldn't affect gameplay, but still): [Undefined drop item class CellBox referenced from actor DoomWindClaw] (loaded Heretical Doom then the monsters; same message played when loaded the other way)


Thanks for bringing it up, wrong name for an ammo drop, thought I got em all but I guess I missed one. Should be an easy fix.

I also noticed some of the projectiles aren't properly displaying their Brutal Heretic 3d model tracers when the CVAR is enabled, so I'll try to get those ironed out as well.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby AvzinElkein » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:45 pm

Ryuhi wrote:
AvzinElkein wrote:Dunno if this should count, but it seems that a minor goof appeared while loading (which shouldn't affect gameplay, but still): [Undefined drop item class CellBox referenced from actor DoomWindClaw] (loaded Heretical Doom then the monsters; same message played when loaded the other way)


Thanks for bringing it up, wrong name for an ammo drop, thought I got em all but I guess I missed one. Should be an easy fix.

I also noticed some of the projectiles aren't properly displaying their Brutal Heretic 3d model tracers when the CVAR is enabled, so I'll try to get those ironed out as well.

Got it. I'll wait for the fix.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby JasmairoQY » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:29 pm

It seems that the powered spinning melee staff attack no longer reflects projectiles as well hitting enemies, it just hits them and sucks them to you but no longer reflects. It only does it if it is unpowered, and i dont see that change on the log.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby Ryuhi » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:37 pm

JasmairoQY wrote:It seems that the powered spinning melee staff attack no longer reflects projectiles as well hitting enemies, it just hits them and sucks them to you but no longer reflects. It only does it if it is unpowered, and i dont see that change on the log.


Its actually been like that for a while, it will still reflect projectiles but you are not invincible to them when they reflect (so you will still take damage.) The reflector method used for the unpowered version is actually spawning a separate actor with how it works (which makes it incompatible with actually dealing damage correctly,) and making the player reflect-invulnerable like in the earliest versions of the mod is highly exploitable. I want to say its been this way since.... 0.8? Somewhere around there.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby batos2 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:39 am

To the 8-Bit Red Haired Girl in the mod

Garnet Til Alexandros, are you? :o
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby Ryuhi » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:35 am

batos2 wrote:To the 8-Bit Red Haired Girl in the mod

Garnet Til Alexandros, are you? :o


nah, the current placeholder is based on Yae from the Ganbare Goemon series :)

Lots more work being done on the monster enhancements in the base mod, doom is done and heretic/hexen are both about 50% complete.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby AvzinElkein » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:11 pm

Best of luck finishing up the thing.
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby HauntLich » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:26 am

Fantastic mod, I've really been enjoying the hell out of it.
I do have a pretty major issue though, it seems that using a button to Run causes Corvus to lurch forward at insane speeds in short bursts. This occurs even if I hit the key to run while he's dead.
I've tried remapping it, enabling/disabling autorun, and nothing seems to work to fix this.

Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: Heretical Doom v1.4 - THE DREADED BALANCE PATCH

Postby Ryuhi » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:28 pm

HauntLich wrote:Fantastic mod, I've really been enjoying the hell out of it.
I do have a pretty major issue though, it seems that using a button to Run causes Corvus to lurch forward at insane speeds in short bursts. This occurs even if I hit the key to run while he's dead.
I've tried remapping it, enabling/disabling autorun, and nothing seems to work to fix this.

Is anyone else experiencing this?


I have literally no idea what is causing this, and it doesnt matter which versions of GZDoom it is, but its something new to 1.4. I always play with autorun on so I never would have even known about it, so thanks for the bug report! now time to try to find the culprit :cry:

That said, been making a lot of progress under the hood with the whole quarantine and all, should hopefully have some good news soon

Edit:
oh, I found the culprit~ I was helping someone make a dash script and forgot to remove it from the ACS file because I'm actually dumb. Timetable for the next patch just got moved up as thats a pretty important bugfix!
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