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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby Gideon020 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:03 am

Playing through, I found that Hellboundguy's shotgun has a much quieter firing sound than the pump animation and is also much quieter compared to the other weapons.
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby YasuoProjectX » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:05 am

I know it, they added Alien Vendetta weapons. That was im thinking after download the old version of Final Doomer
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby Yebudoom » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:38 am

Sgt. Shivers wrote:Also, 3 new classes were added.

THREE of them? Holy shit, guys. There ain't no stopping you, is there? Keep it up, appreciated. Downloading now.
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby chronoteeth » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:53 am

glad everyones enjoying the av weapon set! was real fun bein a part of it <3
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby blackfish » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:23 am

This is a lot of fun. Is it possible to have the classes randomize as you have pistol start mode on as well? It would make the gameplay very interesting.
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby Princess Viscra Maelstrom » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:17 am

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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby SiFi270 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:32 am

Turns out a download that small is actually relatively safe. Hooray!

Unfortunately, AVGuy's Slot 6 doesn't seem to work properly with autoaim. At first it looked like it was just the decals that weren't moving up or down, but after draining all of its ammo while fighting a few Hell Knights on some stairs, it seemed they hadn't taken any damage at all despite the hit effects aligning with them.
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby Alptraum » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:37 pm

So good to have an update of this mod ^^
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby wildweasel » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:46 pm

Sgt. Shivers wrote:Hey, we weren't super happy with the old Plutonia shotgun sound so here's an update that changes it.
Also, 3 new classes were added.

Congrats on the...release? :lol:
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby Redead-ITA » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:28 pm

It might be somewhat of a nitpick for me, but the hellbound shotgun shells (small) pick up sound is louder than the shotgun fire sounds
especially if you have earphones
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby making4 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:44 pm

These new packs are neat stuff, thanks!

A few nitpicks after playing through portions of Doom II and Plutonia on UV with them:
- In the Whitemare set, the Thermocoat only seems to increase in charge level if I ignite (but don't kill) an enemy and practically rub against it. This makes it really hard to build up a charge, which makes its active fire mode hard to use, which is bad since it replaced the chainsaw and sometimes you need that extra ammo-less damage (this is offset a little by the pistol being infinite). Two ways I can think to make it a bit easier - either have it rise when any enemy is ignited (but slow the rise rate a little), or have it also absorb fire from corpses that are still burning when the player runs over them. Maybe I just haven't figured it out though.
- In the Alien Vendetta set, the Phased-Tachyon Cannon's effects and particles go where the auto-aim goes, but the actual projectile/damage goes where the crosshair is. Having said that, this thing one-shots Revenants and that is the best.
- Also in the Alien Vendetta set, the Shattergun just doesn't really have a role. It needs something - maybe to use 4 shells worth of ammo for more damage, maybe just to have its spread narrowed by 50%. With more damage/ammo utilization it would become a great room clearer for dense rooms, but which the player would still want to switch away from for more run-and-gun fights due to ammo wastage. With a tighter spread it would become a more effective medium/long range weapon (which the Drum Shotgun is not), although that would give it role overlap with the Mini-Missile Launcher (which I love).

Hellbound is perfect and really punchy!

Also, is this supposed to work with Heretic? I thought Whitemare would be fun there, and it initially looked like it was working, but then I got the ethereal crossbow and lost my Whitemare weapons, and then I hit a number key and got back my Whitemare weapons, but lost the ethereal crossbow and then I quit.
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby BerserkerNoir » Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:56 pm

Didnt Expect a Update from my Favorite Weapon mod, all the new packs work wonderful, the only issue ive come across with this
is that the Hellbound shotgun doesnt play any sound in recent GZDOOM builds, although it works in older gzdoom and zdoom.
Edit: Making a Clean Install of GZDOOM seems to fix that issue.
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby dljosef » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:00 pm

Well, here are my thoughts on each class' weapons.

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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby EddieMann » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:12 pm

Does the fire damage from Whitemare's weapons spread to other zombies and imps as well? That'd be amazing if it did.
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Re: [3.0!] FINAL DOOMER +

Postby dljosef » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:36 pm

From what I've tested, no it doesn't.

It also doesn't work on enemies on enemies immune to fire damage, considering elemental damage is taken into account.
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