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Re: [V1.1] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:29 pm
by Yholl
Valherran wrote:Plutoniaguy's shotgun has a scope on it, so I kinda expected this to be a hunting shotgun, maybe tighten the spread more for use of long range?
It's already at 3, 1.5 spread over Doom 2's 5.6, 0. How much more accurate do I have to make this thing just because it has the graphic of a fancy magnifying tube attached to it?
Valherran wrote:Doomguy's shotgun could use a small ROF increase to compete with the other 2.
People already complained that the different shotguns had inconsistent speeds before. In any case, his shotgun is meant to be the worst out of the three, weapons of the same tier don't have to be 1:1 with each other, it's more about all the weapons combined.

Princess Viscra Maelstrom wrote:okay, so it seems i was wrong with the casings thing slightly. if one of the new sprites stand on just the edge of some geometry, like one of the steps of a staircase, whatever terrain below it goes bonkers and will constantly make sounds, and in the case of liquid terrain, splashes. so it's not a case of empty casings going splishy-splashy all the time, but the new pickup sprites doing it.
AHA

Now that I understand, I know exactly what's causing that, will fix.

Princess Viscra Maelstrom wrote:oh yeah, the invulnerability sphere doesn't make any sounds when being picked up.
Ah, yeah, will fix. Somehow I did not notice until now.

Re: [V1.1] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:51 pm
by DoomKrakken
Yholl wrote:
Valherran wrote:Plutoniaguy's shotgun has a scope on it, so I kinda expected this to be a hunting shotgun, maybe tighten the spread more for use of long range?
It's already at 3, 1.5 spread over Doom 2's 5.6, 0. How much more accurate do I have to make this thing just because it has the graphic of a fancy magnifying tube attached to it?

VERY. (jk)

In all seriousness, shotguns in real life don't have much spread over short-to-medium ranges, unless they're sawed-off. Think "Chrome Justice" accurate (2.2, 2.2). It probably has the most realistic spread in a Doom mod that I've seen.

Here's a fun idea... why not give it an alt-fire function that tightens the choke further for use over longer ranges?

Re: [V1.1] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:56 pm
by Princess Viscra Maelstrom
i think that would defeat the purpose of simplicity this mod is going for (the only gun using alt-fire is the Halderman Device, and that one kind of makes sense.) plus, it would make the shotgun just a bit too good if you could snipe across unreasonable distances.

Re: [V1.1] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:03 pm
by DoomKrakken
True.

Re: [V1.1] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:34 pm
by Valherran
It's already at 3, 1.5 spread over Doom 2's 5.6, 0. How much more accurate do I have to make this thing just because it has the graphic of a fancy magnifying tube attached to it?


Well, the lethal range of most hunting shotguns is around 30-35 meters to hit your target with all of the buckshot...

People already complained that the different shotguns had inconsistent speeds before. In any case, his shotgun is meant to be the worst out of the three, weapons of the same tier don't have to be 1:1 with each other, it's more about all the weapons combined.


Alright. Note to self, don't pick Doomguy for Doom 1 unless you want to be handicapped in the shotty department. :lol:

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:26 am
by Sgt. Shivers
The mod has been updated again!
Spoiler:

Re: [V1.1] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:37 pm
by Yholl
Valherran wrote:Alright. Note to self, don't pick Doomguy for Doom 1 unless you want to be handicapped in the shotty department. :lol:
oh no not the doom shotgun its so bad for doom

ANYWAY
I've been trying to make a poll for the next weapon sets, but Doom has so much stuff that all the different polling sites I've tried do not give you enough options to list them all.
SO I GET TO DO IT MANUALLY WHEEE

In no particular order, here's all the possible weaponsets I've considered. Of course, feel free to nominate one that isn't listed if you want, I will add it to the list.
Just make a post with the names of three sets you'd like to see, and eventually I'll tally the results and the three highest will be chosen to be the next set.

    Scythe
    Memento Mori
    Back to Saturn X
    Hellbound
    Eternal Doom
    The Revolution!
    Icarus
    Ancient Aliens
    Valiant
    Stronghold
    Demon Eclipse
    Alien Vendetta
    Community Chest
    UAC Ultra
    The Darkening
    Epic
    Herian
    Vanguard
    Sunlust
    The Talosian Incident
    Sunder
    Whitemare
    Armadosia
    A.L.T.
    Sacrement
    Demonfear
    Requiem
    Equinox
    Eviltech
    Hellcore
    Hell Revealed
    Vela Pax
    Counterattack
    Jenesis
    Fragport
    NDCP
    NOVA
    Resurgence
    Reverie
    JPCP
    Zones of Fear
    Estranged
    Interception
    The Rebirth
    The Brotherhood of Ruin
    Speed of Doom
    Unholy Realms
    Vile Flesh
    Whispers of Satan
    Zone 300
    STRAIN
    ZPack

Minor note in the case of Vela Pax/Counterattack, they will not be released until the actual mapsets are done.

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:39 pm
by Slax
Zone 300 guy, yes.
JPCP kawaii guy, yes.
Also this.

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:40 pm
by Somagu
Ancient Aliens, JPCP, Hellbound.

Also this mod is really super cool and I'm actually not convinced you guys are human???

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:49 pm
by Ryan Cordell
BTSX, Sunlust, Ancient Aliens.

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:04 pm
by Marrub
Scythe, JPCP and Zone 300

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:09 pm
by Baconator
Ancient Aliens
Epic
Stronghold

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:15 pm
by SiFi270
Perdition's Gate, Eternal Doom, Hell to Pay.

I was thinking about nominating that last one for a while but that was because I thought it'd be a bad idea to nominate something that already has a few weapons of its own, and seeing things like Valiant and Demon Eclipse on that list has changed my mind, so now I'm excited to see how H2P's janky prerendered weapons could be reinterpreted.

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:17 pm
by TerminusEst13
JPCP, DRLA, Laundry 3

Re: [V1.2] FINAL DOOMER

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:21 pm
by wildweasel
Perdition's Gate, Equinox, and Ancient Aliens.