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Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:03 pm
by AvzinElkein
Apparently, there isn't a custom message for picking up the Tome of Power!

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:57 am
by Brohnesorge
AvzinElkein wrote:Apparently, there isn't a custom message for picking up the Tome of Power!


Good catch. The Chaos Device is missing one too, and the Maultaur is missing a death message. I'll do a quick fix tonight.

EDIT: These are now fixed.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:15 pm
by AvzinElkein
I'm enjoying it so far, but I haven't found any spells yet... (I'm on E1M9 of DOOM 1.) Although the "any-ammo-accepted" autocannon seems quite intriguing! P.S. shouldn't picking up that gun give you 1 or 2 rounds of each kind of ammo?

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 12:35 am
by WolfMann
I'll sound dumb for this but....

I have no idea what to download. I downloaded the file on the first page and it has no pk file in it.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:27 am
by GrazewoundZero
I'm new at this, since I downloaded GZDoom to run the DOOM, Heretic, and Hexen games.

Once I download and unzip, how do I get the mod to work? So far, I'm stuck with Doomguy.

Thank you.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:09 am
by Wivicer
The instructions are right below the download link. You can load the .zip file like you would any .wad or .pk3

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 9:10 am
by Brohnesorge
GrazewoundZero wrote:I'm new at this, since I downloaded GZDoom to run the DOOM, Heretic, and Hexen games.

Once I download and unzip, how do I get the mod to work? So far, I'm stuck with Doomguy.

Thank you.


First, I recommend getting yourself a mod frontend like ZDoom Launcher or ZDoom Executor. Setting up these programs is pretty self explanatory, but once you do, you do not extract the ZIP, just load up the ZIP with GZDoom.

Edit: Also, for those of you out there, check out that OP, Icarus did a video on the mod. Needless to say, we on the Baron team are really excited by this development.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:55 am
by GrazewoundZero
Thank you all for your help!

Now, how do I use/cast a spell with both claws? That's the only mechanic I haven't figured out yet.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:48 pm
by Brohnesorge
Right click casts out of your right hand, Left click casts out of your left hand. Zoom switches the spell in your left hand, and Reload switches spells in your right after you've found additional spells.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:33 am
by GrazewoundZero
Brohnesorge wrote:Right click casts out of your right hand, Left click casts out of your left hand. Zoom switches the spell in your left hand, and Reload switches spells in your right after you've found additional spells.


Thank you for your response.

From it, I was able to mess with my keybinds in order to make it work.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:14 pm
by GrazewoundZero
@Brohnesorge

From your mods description, this mod is for DOOM, DOOM2 Final DOOM & Heretic. I just wanted to let you know that I'm having a blast using it in the Plutonia Experiment, TNT - Evilution, and Hexen.
However, the only pick up are the hearts and flasks. No weapons of any sort (Hexen).

A question about the title, "Hearts of Demons". Is it a general one, or do you plan on other mods with DOOM's bosses?

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:18 am
by Brohnesorge
Yes, I do plan on making more Hearts of Demons. They will be Revenant, Archvile and Archanotron, in no particular order. Archvile and Archanotron are not even in the concept stages, just loose ideas in the team's heads, but there is a super early pre-alpha version of Revenant available here.

However, I want to note that I cannot give a timetable of any kind for these mods. Baron has taken more than a year and a half to get to its current state, and we are still working on it actively. Revenant is next for sure, and Baron will be finished this year. That's the most I can say with any kind of confidence, and it's the most I'm going to say for now in the interest of not getting too offtopic for this thread.

Also, I'm surprised Hexen does much of anything with Baron. It's not targeted or officially supported at all, and no plans are in the works to give it support. So, that's kinda neat.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:59 am
by GrazewoundZero
Brohnesorge wrote:Yes, I do plan on making more Hearts of Demons. They will be Revenant, Archvile and Archanotron, in no particular order. Archvile and Archanotron are not even in the concept stages, just loose ideas in the team's heads, but there is a super early pre-alpha version of Revenant available here.

However, I want to note that I cannot give a timetable of any kind for these mods. Baron has taken more than a year and a half to get to its current state, and we are still working on it actively. Revenant is next for sure, and Baron will be finished this year. That's the most I can say with any kind of confidence, and it's the most I'm going to say for now in the interest of not getting too offtopic for this thread.

Also, I'm surprised Hexen does much of anything with Baron. It's not targeted or officially supported at all, and no plans are in the works to give it support. So, that's kinda neat.


Great to hear you're doing more boss mods! Can't wait!

Baron kinda works in Hexen & Dark Knights... Now I'm intrigued ...

1. The only drops from your mod, are the demon hearts. The Baron is not as badass now, since you can't replenish your mana, and you don't have access to your snazzy demonic weapons.

2. The Flechette (poison flask) is the only item you can pick up and save for later use. Pressing 0 to use, it will bounce a short distance away before exploding. Similar to the way it acts for the fighter class.

3. Keys, switches, and other puzzle items can be picked up and used as normal.

4. The only weapons you will find, will be those of the classes you can choose from. They act oddly, however :
a. In a spawn point for a class weapon, all 3 will appear for that level. For an example, Ep 1 - Seven Portals. The main hub will spawn the Frost Shards scroll, the Serpent Staff, and Timon's Axe.
b. You can pick up only one of the weapons, as each one picked up will replace the previous one.
c. You can't save the weapon you picked up. If you change to either of your claws, the weapon disappears.
d. For each weapon, you'll get the graphics for the hands of that class.
e. You can pick up and store each mana type.

* For the record, I chose Timon's Axe. It's quite powerful in the hands of a Baron. It only takes 1 - 2 hits to kill something, and larger monsters are sent flying. Even shields are no match for Timon's Axe, when wielded by a Baron!

5. The white text used in Heretic, appears in Hexen. So, your mod does acknowledge the items I can pick up.

6. Korax still refers to me as a "mortal".

I'm going to see how far I can get with bare claws, ground slams, thrown chunks of material, and magical weapons with human arms.

* EDIT *

I was thinking ...

I bought Heretic, Hexen & DD, and Hexen 2 off Steam in a bundle. None except Hexen 2 worked, thanks to the lazy coders at Steam/Valve. A player posted a guide in the Heretic forums, about using GZdoom.

It worked like a charm, even helping in cleaning up the original DOOM games I bought through Steam. Hexen 2 doesn't register with GZdoom, as it runs with a seperate mod file a player made to make it work ( Damn, Steam is lazy. ).

Other than using GZdoom, maybe Heretic & Hexen were created with the same engine and/or game codes? This could explain why Baron can be applied to Hexen, but doesn't work 100%.

* Edit *

The arcane power and weapon enchantment items replace certain items ( i.e. With of Wrath ). While I get a boost to my "mortal" weapons, I can't enchant them.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:58 am
by kadu522
While baron can work on hexen as a class. he needs to replace any items with their equivalent mod counterparts. (like makeing most of the healing and ammo items as mana) and exchange the normal weapons with the ones from the mod as well.

This is up to brohne however.

Re: Hearts of Demons - BARON [Beta 11] 4/23/18 One Punch Bar

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:16 pm
by GrazewoundZero
kadu522 wrote:While baron can work on hexen as a class. he needs to replace any items with their equivalent mod counterparts. (like makeing most of the healing and ammo items as mana) and exchange the normal weapons with the ones from the mod as well.

This is up to brohne however.


It's all good.

I'm having a blast, and seeing if I can make it to the end.