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Re: MetaDoom v3.64 "Samuel" (p71)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:50 am
by Kinsie
Oh yeah, I updated Consolation Prize as well. You'll need that to get the enhanced compatibility. Probably should've mentioned that.

Re: MetaDoom v3.64 "Samuel" (p71)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:37 pm
by SiFi270
Axes are supposed to harmlessly destroy barrels, right? Because that doesn't seem to be the case in 64, at least for the first map where I presume they're replaced with special barrels in order to trigger the exit to Hectic.

Re: MetaDoom v3.64 "Samuel" (p71)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:59 am
by Kinsie
SiFi270 wrote:Axes are supposed to harmlessly destroy barrels, right? Because that doesn't seem to be the case in 64, at least for the first map where I presume they're replaced with special barrels in order to trigger the exit to Hectic.
This is a bug in Consolation Prize which I just fixed. Thanks!

Re: MetaDoom v3.64 "Samuel" (p71)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:18 am
by isaacpop23
The barrels still don't like behaving, they seem to be immune to berserk punches.

Re: MetaDoom v3.64 "Samuel" (p71)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:49 am
by Kinsie
isaacpop23 wrote:The barrels still don't like behaving, they seem to be immune to berserk punches.
The normal Berserk punches seem to use the wrong damagetype. In the mean time, use the offhand melee.

Not that punching barrels is a good idea, mind. Use your pistol! It has unlimited ammo!

Re: MetaDoom v3.1 "Samuel" (Help Wanted! p70)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:35 am
by -Ghost-
isaacpop23 wrote:I'd say less "shouting into the void" and more "perfectly satisfying the void". You're executing everything so well that there's little need to suggest things, the balance is great and I assume that you have enough ideas to keep you busy for awhile. Plus I'd figure it'd be annoying on both sides if people were to just leave repetitive on how amazing the mod is every time you post an update.

But in any case, this is my favorite gameplay mod so far, so I'm glad that you're continuing development, what ever your reasons may be. I'll be attentively awaiting the update!


Yeah, I'd say low amount of feedbback is more from this. The mod's slick and polished and works well with no obvious, glaring problems, so for the average Doomer it's great as is. There might be some problems with the code or something, but I lack the skillset to identify most of that unless it's really obvious, so it's not something I can really provide input on.

Re: MetaDoom v3.64 "Samuel" (p71)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:03 am
by wildweasel
Pretty much my only real grievance with the mod is an extremely subjective one: I feel like the machine gun is too slow and the chaingun is too fast. But I understand the machine gun is more closely patterned after Doom 2016's heavy assault rifle, and the chaingun....I'm not sure about the chaingun honestly, but it certainly is a way to eat up all your bullets in a big hurry! So as much as I'd like to see that tweaked, I understand that doing so messes with what makes them so different in the first place.

Re: MetaDoom v3.64 "Samuel" (p71)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:14 am
by Jeimuzu73
wildweasel wrote:Pretty much my only real grievance with the mod is an extremely subjective one: I feel like the machine gun is too slow and the chaingun is too fast. But I understand the machine gun is more closely patterned after Doom 2016's heavy assault rifle, and the chaingun....I'm not sure about the chaingun honestly, but it certainly is a way to eat up all your bullets in a big hurry! So as much as I'd like to see that tweaked, I understand that doing so messes with what makes them so different in the first place.

Seconded. The chaingun's primary fire is already too fast enough to make its secondary fire mode pointless. I would have preferred if it was in between the MG and mobile turret in terms of fire rate (around 900 RPM) so that you could still throw more lead downrange and yet make those 400 bullets last a little longer.

Re: MetaDoom v3.64 "Samuel" (p71)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:21 am
by whatup876
Would it be a good idea if someone were to use the unlockable models part from Doom 4 to make D4 sprites?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9jUpjyH3bQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933y1VMmE9o

Re: MetaDoom v3.666 "Samuel" (p72)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:48 pm
by Kinsie
v3.666 "Samuel" (~23mb)
On Github: Source Repo | Pre-Release Test Builds

v3.666 "Samuel" (08/04/17)
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Some final changes and additions before I set off to work on v4...

New Features:
- Added a "Pistol Uses Ammo" CVAR! (meta_pistolammo) This makes the Pistol use Clip bullets like in vanilla Doom, and will give you 50 bullets at the start of the first map.

Weapon Changes:
- Soulcube now requires 10 souls instead of 5
- Adjusted Chaingun turret ammo usage
- Buffed the BFG's altfire by an impressive amount

Miscellaneous:
- Menu sub-headers in MetaDoom Options menu are now gold instead of red
- Moved new keybinding strings to LANGUAGE to sate my lust for localization
- Lost Soul-family monsters no longer spawn fire when time is frozen

Re: MetaDoom v3.666 "Samuel" (p72)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:56 am
by whatup876
I was looking at some old threads form this site and apparently, someone called "przndoom" were doing some Bruiser sprites

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=15631&start=1305

Not sure if he's still working on it, but apparently this all came from a project called Reincarnation Of Evil, which seems to have started a long time ago.

Edit: looking through the threads, there's also Sabaoth for example: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=15631&start=825

Re: MetaDoom v3.666 "Samuel" (p72)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:59 am
by JohnnyTheWolf
Oooh nice! Another MetaDoom update. :D

Re: MetaDoom v3.666 "Samuel" (p72)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:27 pm
by JohnnyTheWolf
Question: do you plan to make MetaDoom compatible with Doom 64: Retribution?

Re: MetaDoom v3.666 "Samuel" (p72)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:30 pm
by durbdoogle
JohnnyTheWolf wrote:Question: do you plan to make MetaDoom compatible with Doom 64: Retribution?


Use Kinsie's Consolation Prize version of the D64: Retribution maps:

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298

Re: MetaDoom v3.666 "Samuel" (p72)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:36 pm
by whatup876
The new D4T teaser just reminded me that D4 had another new power up which was regeneration, not sure if Kinsie has any plans for this (since Syphon Grenades may make it useless), but IF he does, i was wondering if it could be a variant for the soulsphere.

Edit: also, apparently, both Quad and Regen. are balls with skulls in them, so one could have a different design for variety.

April/14/17 Edit: If Regen ever gets added, i thought of its design to be the classic/original soulsphere but with a lighter shade of blue, to resemble the original power up, while still looking distinct from Quad, since that one would be a skull inside the sphere.

Yet another edit: Regen also brings armor as well, maybe it could be a bit closer to the megasphere.