[v1.0.0] ARGENT - The Streamlined Doom 4 Mod

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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby TheFailgunner » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:18 pm

Does it works on GzDoom? cuz it is not working, plz answer ;-;
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Princess Viscra Maelstrom » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:32 pm

how exactly is it not working? does GZDoom not even launch, does the mod give some script errors, does the mod behave strange when you're playing the game? i would suggest updating GZDoom if you're using an old version of it.
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Doomguy5th » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:34 pm

TheFailgunner wrote:Does it works on GzDoom? cuz it is not working, plz answer ;-;

What version are you using?

Also I look forward to when you update this mod Xaser, even with all the new sprites Neccronixis will be releasing on the 18th of July. It mixes the new Doom with the old Doom very well in my opinion.
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Jeimuzu73 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:03 pm

Now that the new weapon sprites are already out, are you planning to add more mods to other weapons (such as the combat shotgun)?
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Xaser » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:10 pm

Glad you asked! Got a relevant new vid:



Progress is slow but steady. Been doing a bunch of sprite tweaking of the hell of it, partially to set it apart from D4D and also because of the "why not?" factor.

Also, have a bonus "oops" vid. Blaze it.
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby comet1337 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:20 pm

enemies gib from close range shotgun blasts now? nice
'break mods at the speed of 2100 explosions per minute!'
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Xaser » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:36 pm

I should probably clarify (since it's buried in the YT video description): I have the mod's "Monsters Always Gib" flag set to 'true'. More fun that way. :P
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby comet1337 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:47 pm

oh.
make it a feature anyway?
just a custom damage type for the shotguns and a_jumpifcloser for the monsters
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Captain J » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:26 am

Xaser's good ol' instagib features are still alive yet fresh, eh? I still remember it to this day since zen dynamics.

Anyway, really good and meaty animation you made there! Can't wait for more!
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby DoomKrakken » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:53 pm

I love this! I especially love how you did the tracers there... very ingenious and efficient!

Can't wait for the weapon mods... :D

One thing... I think the BFG tracers are too strong. As far as I remember, they weren't strong enough to clear a whole room of Barons, Knights, Revenants, and Mancubi, all with one shot. Zombies and Imps, maybe... but not the more elite monsters. It also kind of defeats the purpose of the BFG ball itself, which is supposed to hit something and make it go kablooey. I like being able to hit monsters with the BFG ball itself.

Maybe consider nerfing the damage of those tracers, while buffing the damage of the actual ball? Although... firing a ball that fires killer tracers (rather than less lethal tracers) automatically at your enemies is fun too... so maybe put that idea under yet another type of BFG ball for the BFG CVar?
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby ijon » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:59 pm

barons and cyber-fatsos are the only two normal monsters in doom 4 that can *potentially* survive being in a bfg ball's *insane* blast radius

the tracers? those tear up everything up to fatsos on their own, even without the explosion.

the bfg really is a fire-and-forget room clearer in doom 4.
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby DoomKrakken » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:03 pm

I don't remember it being able to do that to Barons... by tracers alone, that is.
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Doomguy5th » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:07 pm

Xaser wrote:

Oh wow! Those shotgun animations remind me of the ones I made for my Brutal Doom sub mod, IB. Except IMO, these look much smoother!
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Captain J » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:34 pm

DoomKrakken wrote:I don't remember it being able to do that to Barons... by tracers alone, that is.
The tracers does great deal of damage, so it is possible to neutralize barons and even put them to death. Even though i haven't played it yet, but some articles and videos tells it all.
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Re: [v0.1.3] ARGENT - Xaser does Doom 4

Postby Arctangent » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:44 pm

Honestly, the shotgun animations look straight out of a Flash animation, and that's not a compliment. The gun doesn't seem to actually recoil in any sensible way, it just flat-out doesn't look right. The pumping also has the same issue.

Also, I feel like when the weapon lowers to change weapon mods, there should be at least some attempt to look like the current mod's being removed while the gun lowers. Right now it doesn't so much convey the fact that you're just swapping out parts of the same gun, it looks like you're changing to a different gun with an equip animation where you put the gun together.
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