Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - A Final Update

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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby the95mexican » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:24 pm

ok im gonna to do any changes :arrow:
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby Gideon020 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:23 am

Just double-checking, but which of the Brutal Hexen wads should I be downloading?
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby exe64 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:44 pm

you really should post this on ModDB, as there is alot of interest for brutal mods (having a page for brutal doom and blutal Half life and everything)
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby Cherno » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:39 pm

Hello,

I just registered here to say thanks for thid mod, I spent the last few days playing through Heretic and I'm currently in Episode 3. I always found Heretic to be a little bit slow in glaemplay but it had that great dark fantasy stmosphere Raven Software was known for. Now with Brutal Heretic I think the game is much more fun, with those chunky salsa sound effect when one of the pesky gargoyles gets killed ;) It's also a lot harder than I remember from the vanilla version but I guess that's the point of a brutal mod treatment. The Weredragons are extremely dangerous, often two quick hits from their quick-flying fireballs is enought to send my health counter into the negative :)
About the weapon behavior, I think it has already been mentioned that the Elven Wand is very useful and never becomes obsolete, it can even deal with stronger enemies with ease. The Crossbow is also nice, perhaps it could be a little bit stronger and slower firing; I remember being able to insta-kill gargoyles in vanilla Heretic, which was always great fun. The Dragonclaw, in my opinion, feels somewhat anemic; it fires very fast but the blasts seem to do very little damage. It's probably hard to balance it vs. the Wand because the Wand also fires faster now, but still a littel bit more damage would be nice without changing anything else. It's advantage over the Wand could be that it's hitscan. The other, stronger weapons are ok, I guess. Not much to say about them sicne I don't remember how they were in vanilla Heretic.

Anyway, thanks again for the great work and I hope you keep it up!
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby nep_505 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:14 am

Hi, i have a fatal error when i launch the pk3, "34 errors while parsing DECORATE scripts". How can i fix this problem?
PD: Is amazing all the work what are you doing on this mod.
I'm sorry for my english, i speak spanish.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby Seidolon » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:08 am

I don't know why it would give you an error. Try making sure you have the latest gzdoom version.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby Ringman » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:00 am

This mod had me thinking someone should add a monk class that uses Lo Wang's sprites and animations. Add the ability to throw most item sprites, or use them as weapons and you have a 3.5E elite Drunken Master class. That'd be awesome!
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby AfroDemon562 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:57 pm

Hello, GZDoom 2.3.0 seriously gave a middle finger to Brutal Heretic mod when i was trying to play it.
Here's my error report:
[Script error, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.meleestaff" line 186:
NODELAY may only be used immediately after Spawn:
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/revenant.txt" line 230:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/bossbrain.txt" line 259:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/bossbrain.txt" line 286:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/strife/strifefunctions.txt" line 10:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/shared/inv_misc.txt" line 68:
Left side of allmap is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/shared/powerups.txt" line 310:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/shared/secrettrigger.txt" line 15:
Left side of total_secrets is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/scriptedmarine.txt" line 244:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/scriptedmarine.txt" line 245:
Unknown identifier 'ticks'
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/scriptedmarine.txt" line 441:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/scriptedmarine.txt" line 483:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/scriptedmarine.txt" line 540:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/scriptedmarine.txt" line 556:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/doom/scriptedmarine.txt" line 596:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/raven/minotaur.txt" line 394:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/raven/minotaur.txt" line 515:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/raven/minotaur.txt" line 626:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/heretic/ironlich.txt" line 308:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/heretic/ironlich.txt" line 317:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/korax.txt" line 422:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/hexenspecialdecs.txt" line 136:
Left side of nomonsters is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/hexenspecialdecs.txt" line 779:
Left side of nomonsters is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/summon.txt" line 92:
Left side of maptime is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/flechette.txt" line 494:
Left side of teamdamage is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/flechette.txt" line 502:
Left side of teamdamage is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/clericholy.txt" line 464:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/clericholy.txt" line 506:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/clericstaff.txt" line 84:
Left side of teamdamage is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/magelightning.txt" line 124:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/magelightning.txt" line 411:
Left side of time is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/teleportother.txt" line 142:
Left side of actownspecial is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/hexen/teleportother.txt" line 143:
Unknown identifier 'Caller'
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/strife/strifeitems.txt" line 530:
Left side of allmap is not a struct or class
Script error, "gzdoom.pk3:zscript/strife/strifeitems.txt" line 811:
Left side of levelnum is not a struct or class
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.minotaur" line 149:
Unknown class name 'MinotaurFlare' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.minotaur" line 206:
Unknown class name 'MinotaurFlare' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 159:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 161:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 163:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 165:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 167:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 170:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 172:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 174:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 177:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 179:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 181:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 184:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 186:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'
Script warning, "BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3:decorate.phoenixrod" line 188:
Unknown class name 'SmallFireTrail' of type 'Actor'

Execution could not continue.

34 errors while parsing DECORATE scripts]

This is TL;DR level, but something tells me that ZScript forced GZDoom give a middle finger to the Brutal Heretic.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby nep_505 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:10 pm

I have the same problem, AfroDemon562.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby Seidolon » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:03 am

I don't think that's an error in which I can currently fix. If someone else knows how to do that, feel free to post here.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby -Ghost- » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:28 am

I wish he'd come back to this. Heretic and Hexen need more gameplay mods than Doom ever did.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby Origamy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:28 am

Hi, i use to have the same problem as afrodemon 562 and nep_505 " 34 errors while parsing DECORATE scripts ",to avoid it do as following with gzdoom 1.9 :

You need the original Heretic or hexen .wad + GZdoom
Extract the Heretic.wad and the brutal heretic.pk3 + HR_HereticWidescreenv2.wad into your GZdoom folder.
Create a new brutal.txt file (in the gzdoom folder) and then rename it to brutal.bat then write inside the file this line :
gzdoom.exe BrutalHereticRPG_V1.pk3 HR_HereticWidescreenv2.wad (or if you downloaded hexen then it would be hexenblablabla.pk3).
Close and save the file then run it, it should work nicely.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby Seidolon » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:57 am

Hey guys, so I've been trying to get Sergeant Mark IV to resume progress on this mod. I haven't been very motivated to get much more progress on this project done, so I've been trying to get the attention of the original author, but I can't seem to contact him at all. I really want this mod to stay alive and well. Does anyone know how I could contact him? I've tried messaging his youtube account and his doomworld account but he isn't replying to anything.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby BerserkerNoir » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:47 am

Seidolon wrote:Hey guys, so I've been trying to get Sergeant Mark IV to resume progress on this mod. I haven't been very motivated to get much more progress on this project done, so I've been trying to get the attention of the original author, but I can't seem to contact him at all. I really want this mod to stay alive and well. Does anyone know how I could contact him? I've tried messaging his youtube account and his doomworld account but he isn't replying to anything.



Last time I commented the Brutal Hexen vid and responded, he said that he will continue developing it in a certain future.
You can either contact him In his Facebook page of Bd, or even in Patreon.
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Re: Brutal HeXen/Heretic RPG - Version 3 Fighter Demo

Postby AfroDemon562 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:40 pm

Use latest GZDoom for the full experience. Using GZDoom's 2.3.0 and later versions sure give a fatal error. Anyways, cool mod. I love that fighter demo!
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