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Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:39 am
by bowserknight
First off, I'm hyped about finding out what the white Cyberdemon is.
But unfortunately I'm having a problem with this new version. I finally wanted to get back at working on my test map but it seems like Doombuilder has some problems with the 0.95 version. Everytime I'm in Doombuilder and have ColourfulHell95.pk3 in my resources, I can't playtest the map through Doombuilder because I get this error message shown in the picture below.

However, if I just try to play the mod normally without Doombuilder, it works fine. Can somebody explain to me what the problem is and how to fix it? Cause I really wanted to get back into working on my map but it's impossible like that...

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:08 am
by Rowsol
Gzdoom is attempting to load 2 mods that both use the same name cvar. Since it's highly unlikely that any other mod uses that cvar name, it would appear you are trying to load colorfulhell more than once.

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:37 am
by Beezle
I forget who made the Colorful Hell Patch for Guncaster but the new version of GC breaks compatibility with it.

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:06 pm
by AvzinElkein
Seems like it's been almost a year since the last update.

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:57 pm
by Machine-Reaper
AvzinElkein wrote:Seems like it's been almost a year since the last update.


the last update was in November 2018.

which means just 3 months.

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:02 pm
by bisousbisous
Use the universal addon that just got released

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:29 pm
by Beezle
bisousbisous wrote:Use the universal addon that just got released

Yeah the GC Adapter works perfectly for CH and pretty much everything (with the exception of Kriegsland enemies but it worked for me, just couldn't get GC's difficulties), thanks bisousbisous!

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:28 pm
by Kellion
Had a blast playing through this with Doom Incarnate in an Oblige roguelike style playthrough. Despite that mod's general opness, your own mod's bullshit really balanced it out, and with a sprinkling of AI Director plus Legendary Champions that was a fine, bloody experience.

in one level I even had had the unfortunate luck of bumping into a champion orange no-clip revenant... With 16 000 HP. Fun times.

Awesome stuff, can't wait to see you finish the rest of it ;)

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:50 pm
by bowserknight
finally got to try out the new Cyberdemon. I really was expecting something completely different lol. Where do those voicelines even come from?

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.95 tweak tweak

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:40 pm
by Hege Cactus
Glad to know people have been enjoying the white cybie fun time

finally got to try out the new Cyberdemon. I really was expecting something completely different lol. Where do those voicelines even come from?


From an interview of John Romero, I cherry picked most fitting ones and then gave them bit of attempt to make sound more demonic or so



Version 0.96
Download


Big features:

CYAN TIER
A new optional tier is here! These monsters are slippery like ice, fragile like glass, and sharp as crystal shards
You'll most likely find very fun situations with these fellows

NEW WHITE TIER:
The revenant finally has the white variant! Took long enough
This guy is a tough cookie who only wants to kick your ass, no one elses

NEW EX BOSSES:
Black chaingunner and black cacodemon have EX versions, prepare for explosions.

ITEM TWEAKS:
You can now set the drop rates of the enemies and bosses to your own taste. feel theres too many weapon/armor/health drops? You can lower em or turn em off
And for ammo? You can set that to double or to rarer or off aswell, it is seperate from items.
Bosses that drop backpacks can also be tweaked now for those gameplay mods that have goodies on backpacks.

Note: Default drops such as shotgunners shotgun and some special specifics like benellus's fun are not effected by these settings



Full changelog:
Spoiler:

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.96 cyanide

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:02 pm
by Tartlman
pretty neat, i'll play it sometime.

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.96 cyanide

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:55 pm
by Rowsol
The much needed loot reduction has finally come. The new ice guys bleeding red is weird. I'm getting a script error on startup on gzdoom 3.7.2.

RedBaron3 drops a "CH_Backpack" but that item doesn't exist. I'm guessing that's supposed to be a "BackPackBundle". I checked the other monsters and this was the only guy to be messed up.

White Spectre and Lost Soul are missing +BOSS flags. There are a few that probably shouldn't have the flag because of mods looking for the flag to determine loot. DeepTentacle, GrayPE2, WhitePE3, WhiteCacoOrb1, SpliceBaron, WhiteSP3, WhiteSP2, and RedBaron3 (red baron currently drops boss loot 2 times due to morphing on death and the white spider drops many times that due to sharding on death). When I mention boss loot I'm talking about using mods like LegenDoomLite and the new Guncaster Adapter.

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.96 cyanide

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:27 pm
by bowserknight
I've finally gotten back to work on my little test map again, even if it's nothing special. Now I just have to figure out how to do a proper infighting-test area, like in those old "DOOM GLADIATOR" videos if anybody remembers those. I'm also having some weird problem in my rooms for the optional monsters... a fireblue Zombie keeps randomly spawning in rooms made only for the gray, cyan and abyssal enemies and I don't know why.

Lastly, I really like all the new additions to the roster! But while going through the optional monsters I noticed that the gray spectre (the half-invisible spider) is a little out of place, now that the cyan enemies exist. I mean because it shoots ice crystals and most other gray enemies are rock / earth based, so it would fit more into the cyan category now. Just a tiny thing that caught my eye, if you have no problem with it I won't have one too :)

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.96 cyanide

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:41 am
by Hege Cactus
Rowsol wrote:The much needed loot reduction has finally come. The new ice guys bleeding red is weird. I'm getting a script error on startup on gzdoom 3.7.2.

RedBaron3 drops a "CH_Backpack" but that item doesn't exist. I'm guessing that's supposed to be a "BackPackBundle". I checked the other monsters and this was the only guy to be messed up.

White Spectre and Lost Soul are missing +BOSS flags. There are a few that probably shouldn't have the flag because of mods looking for the flag to determine loot. DeepTentacle, GrayPE2, WhitePE3, WhiteCacoOrb1, SpliceBaron, WhiteSP3, WhiteSP2, and RedBaron3 (red baron currently drops boss loot 2 times due to morphing on death and the white spider drops many times that due to sharding on death). When I mention boss loot I'm talking about using mods like LegenDoomLite and the new Guncaster Adapter.


Checked the script error start up, seems I had messed up renderstyle and translation there
The red blood is unintentional, tho seems I have missed many of em as I am sure I set the bloodcolours on many of the cyan monsters to either, black, cyan or blue, Ill go through em again

Its actually suppoused to be just a normal backpack, seems Ive accidently put the CH_ on it

Oh, white spectre and lost soul I did not know had the issue of missing the flag, huh, bizarre! Explains a few things about doomRPG github compats too. Will fix
Will look into tweaking the other ones too that you mentionened, good eye!

I'll fix these for the next patch which might not be too long if I decide to make a fix up patch instead of all up release


I've finally gotten back to work on my little test map again, even if it's nothing special. Now I just have to figure out how to do a proper infighting-test area, like in those old "DOOM GLADIATOR" videos if anybody remembers those. I'm also having some weird problem in my rooms for the optional monsters... a fireblue Zombie keeps randomly spawning in rooms made only for the gray, cyan and abyssal enemies and I don't know why.

Lastly, I really like all the new additions to the roster! But while going through the optional monsters I noticed that the gray spectre (the half-invisible spider) is a little out of place, now that the cyan enemies exist. I mean because it shoots ice crystals and most other gray enemies are rock / earth based, so it would fit more into the cyan category now. Just a tiny thing that caught my eye, if you have no problem with it I won't have one too


for cyan and abyssal, make sure your spawns are set to classic and not reduced, the reduced makes the abyss monsters downgrade to another tier and cyan to reroll whole monster tier
Otherwise dunno why that would happen, kinda odd

The spider's there cause figured I wanted something different for gray when I made the gray's, I could change his attack to something more interesting tho, he's a bit of an odd ball and some people confuse him as abyssal

Aso if you do doom gladiatiory combat arena, be aware that some bosses like white revenant refuse to infight all together, so flag change might be needed for em if you wish to force em to fight

Re: [WIP]Colourful Hell 0.96 cyanide

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:38 am
by Beezle
Do the cyan monsters multiply when you 1st see and don't kill them quick enough? Slippery little bastards hehe.