[Justamod] Shut up and Bleed. (Now in V0.4 flavor)

[iSpook]

"When Hellspawn stand between you and redemption, the toll required to get by will be paid in your blood."



Download: (Pick one) (IF YOU RUN THIS IN ZANDYBAM, YOU WILL NEED THE 3.0 BETA. Sorry.)
Dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fpb5bor9znmc6 ... a.pk3?dl=0
Copy link: https://copy.com/qubXHv3WPk8Qv3NH

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Now I know what you're thinking:

"What the hell is SE? What happened to ZD? And why did the version jump two numbers?!"

Well After 1...h? (I forget, it's been a while), I was (unsurprisingly) swamped with feed back from a ton people who (a bit surprisingly, considering it's something I made) seemed to enjoy the mod, although found it a fair bit tedious (which, again, wasn't surprising. Hell, it crept in within those "Few minutes at a time" bits of playing from the original version, when I wasn't instantly killed from various things.)

While I had made excuses as to why I wouldn't address some of these issues (mostly because I wanted to keep it to a "Faithful" port), but over time that line of reasoning just sorta grew... stale. NOt that I still don't sort of agree with it, but I didn't want it to hold me back anymore. So I decided to address all the feed back I got, and thus I dropped the "Faithful port" thing, and thus "SE" was born (With "SE" being "Spook edition", of course) God help my soul from the wrath of Chronoteeth, hah.

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Back when ChronoTeeth had released this in the ZDF's "Off topic" forum I thought the mod was pretty cool looking. "A mod that's a bit slower than most mods out there? This should be neat-o". Unfortunately playing this mod in EDGE left a somewhat bad taste in my mouth: The weapons (While nice to look at and felt nice to use) seemed rather weak (Such as the Hunting rifle taking 2-3 shots to kill the imp replacements) And the fact that the default HUD didn't show ammo at all* was one of a couple reasons I can remember why I never got into it (Well that and Edge was just too weird for me tor eally get into for more than a few minutes at time, but I believe that's more of a preference than anything wrong with the port itself.)

* I'm unsure whether this is due to the mod or because it broke something in 3DGE, but I couldn't change to the default hud

Returning to this mod like... A couple months ago? (I can't exactly remember), the issues I had with the mod were still there, but I was't quite a nub when it comes to Doom modding, so I had decided to do my best to port this mod to Zdoom/Zandronum (Mostly because this mod seems like it'd be cool when played in Survival-Coop, or something.)

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Rocco was exactly what everyone saw him to be on the outside:
Tough, hard as nails, and a man who doesnt take any shit. Though, thats what
was on the outside. As soon as it was silent, the poor man shook, cried,
and feared every day for his life. Obsessed about outwardly appearances,
he bought a gun. He bought a trench coat. He grew his beard out. He did
everything he could to look imposing, but by no means was he. He learned
that out the hard way, after getting juked in the side with a knife from
some pissant hobo who was too drunk to run away from Mr. Imposing, even
after flashing his .38 and a blade of his own to the homeless.

Now the man wakes up in a pool of his own blood to see nothing but the
damned all around him and not a single sliver of humanity. Poor man, he
just couldn't stop shaking, gripping that pistol with the worst jitters.
He was dead. Dead and still bleeding. Was he gonna let his fears let him
stay stuck in satan's realm, or was he gonna do what he can to make it
right? Even though its useless, seein as the damned dont get second
Chances. Still, hee had plenty of time to try.

And try. And try. And try. And try some more. And again.

Ah well. Time to shut up and bleed it out.

Features present in the current mod that are (Still) faithful to this mod:

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* A collection of 22 weapons, all which come with functional reloading and a Kick altfire

* A fully replaced bestiary ranging from fast, melee only imp-type critters to floating masses of Tumorous flesh belching out horrific soul-based nasties.

* Fully replaced item sprites that are "Resident Evil"-ish in design.

* Custom Visual effects (ranging from casing and magazine sprites for weapons to simple, but pretty effects for monster projectiles)

Features present in the current mod that aren't faithful but improve upon the mod:

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*New projectiles for some monsters (They were replaced either because they didn't fit the monster's description (Such as the Turmoil's projectile) or because the sprites looked odd (Such as the Pitkis)), although they have been edited so they match as close as possible to their Edge counterparts.

*The reload coding for some of the weapons have been modified, so they don't go through their full reload cycle when they aren't completely empty. (Something the Edge version did that sort of drove me nuts.)

Features in this current mod that are new:

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* A custom HUD, complete with a list of all the ammunition types used in-game

* New menu graphics and a font to replace Doom's default Font.

* A new language lump that replaces most of Doom 1/2's Cheat/misc with with messages that seem more appropriate ([size=85]and probably sillier, who knows.[/size])

* New decorative props, which may or may not hide a nasty surprise.

* Quick-thrown grenades, for times when a map-maker decides to throw hordes of monsters at the player, but not a proper weapon to deal with them.

* A new enemy to replace the Commander Keens

* Due to being able to get my hands on new sprites, there are new alternate items (Which mostly work the same as their "Stock" counter parts, and are mostly for variety)

* A taunt button... well, more of a "Scared muttering" button. (with voice lines provided by Marty Kirra) 

Things to do:

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* Finish the rest of the weapons (Maybe, never was a fan of the tranq rifle and the other two weapons are OP as fug.) 

* Possibly rewrite intermission text to reflect the mod's "Plot". 

*Possibly replace blood system with droplets and fix up the prop replacements.

Main changelog:

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-- New Difficulty setting "Shut up and die", Featuring 2x enemy health, 3x enemy damage, with upgraded and aggressive monsters
-- New New difficulty setting "Shut up and bleed", featuring 2x enemy health, 3x enemy damage, and normal monsters are replaced with alt monsters
-- Old "Shut up and bleed" Difficulty setting renamed "No escape". 
-- All the changes from Ed's "Enhanced" version has been implemented
-- The pipe has been reworked so you can hold the fire button and release it to swing the pipe. its damage and hit range has been buffed
-- Sonnelion's project looks like it's being thrown mid-swing. Same with Abaddons
-- Explosions were reworked.
-- Burrower animation sorta fixed.
-- Lolth gun attack turned into a fast projectile mimicking Hitscan but making them much fairer.
-- Stinger now has a scope
-- Rifle and stinger now autoreload when they enter their scoped-dryfire states (only if autoreload cvar is turned on)
-- Kicking now requires stamina
-- Hud has been redone, ammo values are now on tho Automap hud, instead of clogging up the main hud.
-- There are new scripts for start up, low health and death scenarios
-- New Palette (Taken from Brutalist doom)
-- The spas now takes ammo from the mag when you pump the weapon.
-- The rifle's sound clipping have been fixed.

Things of note: You're going to have to bind keys for Reload, Zoom and Taunt in the control menu, because this mod uses the "Old" method of Zoom and Reload, to maintain Compatibility with Zandronum. Oh and TURN OFF CL_RUN, OR YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK THINGS.

Also, Recommended mods to go along side this:
Dark doom - Click here
Footsteps mod - Click here
Flashlight mod -Click here
An ambient music soundpack of your choice.
Any map that's not fuck-huge and won't break monsters.

[-Ghost-]

I like it from what I've played so far. I'm glad you finally released something to play, I'd been following your stuff on the /vr/ thread. I've only played a few levels but gun balance feels okay so far; you start off really rough, but once you get another weapon things get a lot more manageable. It feels like the delay between shots can be frustratingly long, though. There's also sometimes a weird delay in reloading, where I have to hit reload twice or just get a time gap before I actually start reloading. It's a little hard to compare straight up to the EDGE version since this plays a lot smoother, great job porting it over.

[iSpook]

weird delay in reloading, where I have to hit reload twice or just get a time gap before I actually start reloading.

Three things:

1.) Thanks.

2.) The delay is due to the Idle animation that ChronoTeeth had used. I've tried to smooth it out with some really hacky silliness but it's not 100% resolved, but due to being somewhat faithful to the Edge version, I can't nix the animation to fully iron that out, sorry. (Not to say it's his fault entirely, I sort of have to do the A_Jump thing for the reloads/zoom/grenade key, and this sorta interferes with that)

3.) Which weapon had the fire delay?

[-Ghost-]

Yeah, no problem if anything I mention thinking it's a bug is just part of the mod. I've played the EDGE version before, but not in depth and I've never been sure if I've had EDGE set up properly to begin with.

The most noticeable delay was on the shotgun. You fire, pump, hear the shell hit the ground, then it feels like there's another second before you can fire again, so if you click immediately after that pump for a followup shot you're going to have to click a third time. The assault rifle seems to have the same issue, but not quite as delayed. It's weird because all the other guns seem to be fine with followup shots, or have an animation/sound that lasts long enough to cover the delay.

[mentha]

I'm really digging this. Its really hard though. At least, for me it is.

I have to play on lower difficulty settings and still use my knife a lot. That's probably what was intended though. Are there any wads you would recommend to play this on?

[iSpook]

Yeah, no problem if anything I mention thinking it's a bug is just part of the mod. I've played the EDGE version before, but not in depth and I've never been sure if I've had EDGE set up properly to begin with.

The most noticeable delay was on the shotgun. You fire, pump, hear the shell hit the ground, then it feels like there's another second before you can fire again, so if you click immediately after that pump for a followup shot you're going to have to click a third time. The assault rifle seems to have the same issue, but not quite as delayed. It's weird because all the other guns seem to be fine with followup shots, or have an animation/sound that lasts long enough to cover the delay.

Oh, the shotgun delay is intentional. Pre-delay the thing fired fast enough to make it a wee bit OP.

[chronoteeth]

hey this is here now!!

great job on the porting thus far!

heres a dl to the original if anyone is curious

[TheMightyHeracross]

This + Dark Doom + Ambient Music.

[Cardboard Marty]

Really liking this port! Been following development on /vr/ (and of course the stuff you post on #tsp) and I've been eagerly awaiting the day I could play it. Really unique atmosphere and it's hard as balls, but I'm enjoying what you've got so far!

[Carbine Dioxide]

Very Resident Evil(sounds, matilda). I like it.

[Enjay]

Seems to be good fun so far.

[wildweasel]

I think I missed this mod the first time around and took this opportunity to look it over. Actually pretty good in terms of presentation, though early weapons are really underwhelming (not a fan of the crossbow; feels like a lot of wasted ammo with the spread shot). As is typical of a modern Chronoteeth mod, the game becomes punishingly difficult, and I had a hell of a time finding a map set to use on it and wound up just using the Doom 2 stock maps instead. (TVR!.wad becomes borderline unplayable with all the poison turrets.)

[Toberone]

I'm not very good with praise so I'll just bluntly state that this mod is really cool. Yay. Kudos on porting it though, really good job here.

Now I'm aware your trying to stay faithful so I don't think I can really state some of my small gameplay grievances (like no true revenant replacement, which is somewhat disappointing.) But I think I should address the sound, which is kinda wonky in the volume department. On the minor side, feel like the guns could use a tad bit of amplication.

On the major side three monsters kind of urk me. First is the caco/rev replacement which is fine until it uses its attack in a small room and you get to hear its firing sound 10x over, I suggest maybe a somewhat quieter sound like the poe ball death sound or even quieter the death sound to the projectiles of cacodemons from ww-doomnukem. Second is the mancubus replacement, damn its loud, REALLY loud. Does it have boss volume properties? Cause I can hear from miles away. I suggest just getting rid of that if its true, or at least make the pain noise less grating. Third is the mastermind replacement, its voice being Cave of the past is really neat but the way the pain sound gets cut out all the time is sorta weird, maybe a shorter sound would be better, though I don't know how you'd match it.

Thats all, pretty good stuff here.

[chronoteeth]

Seems to be good fun so far.

yaaaa! I was listening to this at the time and like i didnt have a name for the mod so i just chose this

it fits the mood more of the mod, but its weird tbh. the mods about slappin you in the face and being disgustingly grungy. the dark edgy quit messages and item notes in this new version doesnt fit the original mood. its about fucking your shit up, not "my soul is dark and evil..."

[iSpook]

(not a fan of the crossbow; feels like a lot of wasted ammo with the spread shot).

Yeah I don't like the spread shot either, was thinking about doing it away for something more akin to Code Veronica's Bowgun, but I felt like it wouldn't have been faithful.

As is typical of a modern Chronoteeth mod, the game becomes punishingly difficult, and I had a hell of a time finding a map set to use on it and wound up just using the Doom 2 stock maps instead. (TVR!.wad becomes borderline unplayable with all the poison turrets.)

Er, whoops. The poison turret's not his doing, I'll fix that.

On the major side three monsters kind of urk me. First is the caco/rev replacement which is fine until it uses its attack in a small room and you get to hear its firing sound 10x over, I suggest maybe a somewhat quieter sound like the poe ball death sound or even quieter the death sound to the projectiles of cacodemons from ww-doomnukem. Second is the mancubus replacement, damn its loud, REALLY loud. Does it have boss volume properties? Cause I can hear from miles away. I suggest just getting rid of that if its true, or at least make the pain noise less grating. Third is the mastermind replacement, its voice being Cave of the past is really neat but the way the pain sound gets cut out all the time is sorta weird, maybe a shorter sound would be better, though I don't know how you'd match it.

To be honest this wouldn't even be a thing if Zandro had the proper "Bounce sound" code, I'll look into it when I get back into the swing of things.

The dark edgy quit messages and item notes in this new version doesnt fit the original mood. its about fucking your shit up, not "my soul is dark and evil..."

The quit messages weren't intended to be edgy, for some reason the mod's lore gave off this "The big baddies are conspiring against poor Rocco while he tries to escape hell" and I sorta took that and ran with the quit messages. Same sorta thing with he cheat messages, whoops.