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FragTrak Four! More Final Doomer compatibility!

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Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:23 pm
by Tapwave
Yeah, I didn't forget this.
Version 2.0 now offers you:
  • No fuckery when you get a multikill that pushes you over a rank threshold!
  • A brand new HUD based on Xaser's Necrodome and Psychic mods, that works on all reasonably large resolutions!
  • A few new sounds!
And a new frontpage post. And in PK3 format, courtesy of Undead003.
Have fun!

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:17 pm
by Tapwave
I accidentally broke the Xp system while unbreaking the multikill thing.
Just redownload from the same link, and it'll work.

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:37 pm
by Kostov
The status bar screws up whenever it's displayed. You're not supposed to use it while playing, but it undeniably happens in the automap.

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Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:03 am
by Tapwave
undead003 wrote:The status bar screws up whenever it's displayed. You're not supposed to use it while playing, but it undeniably happens in the automap.
I've noticed it too, but I have no idea of what causes this. The best bet I have would be to screw around with the HUD scaling settings until it stops, but it might screw up the main hud as well.

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:22 am
by Blue Shadow
As a top-level command, add this:

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height 0;
And make empty "normal" and "automap" statusbar definitions, so they're not drawn:

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statusbar normal {}
statusbar automap {}

This is unrelated to the HUD, but on load, the console spews these errors/warnings that you might want to take a look at:
Spoiler:

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:53 am
by Tapwave
Thanks, everything's fixed now.
Version 2.1 it is!
  • Fixed the automap.
  • Enemies that can't get gibbed don't vanish when overkilled.
Same link as usual.

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:40 pm
by Tapwave
Undead003 screwed around the code with me, and we FINALLY fixed the multikill rankup issue. Once and for all. Just to commemorate how much of an idiot I am for not finding about this earlier, this update adds 2 more ranks to the ladder (10000 and 13000)!

Same link as usual, be aware that saves might not be compatible.

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:34 pm
by brunocar
WOW, thats 1 thing i can say about this mod, the other is that this mod can go in 2 routes now, either a arcade RPG style upgrade system and/or a weapon upgrade system; or it can stay the same and be a useless mod just to see how man kills have you done with the shotgun

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:42 pm
by Tapwave
brunocar wrote: a arcade RPG style upgrade system
Doom RPG does that.
brunocar wrote: a weapon upgrade system
Defeats the point of the mod.
brunocar wrote:or it can stay the same and be a useless mod just to see how man kills have you done with the shotgun
You do realize that's it's just supposed to make the vanilla experience a bit fresher by giving you an incentive for challenges. Otherwise it's just vanilla.

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:28 am
by TheRailgunner
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Any way you could use this sprite (or a scaled down variant) instead of the default handgun pickup? The default looks nothing like the actual pistol, and it'd be nice to not see what basically looks like a revolver in the top left corner.

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:46 am
by Tapwave
TheRailgunner wrote: to not see what basically looks like a revolver in the top left corner.
Thanks for the sprite, but the mod doesn't use weapon icons anymore. The screen you have seen must've been one of the very early versions that was made before the icon in zdoom.pk3 was replaced.

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:38 am
by darkhaven3
brunocar wrote:this mod can go in 2 routes now, either a arcade RPG style upgrade system and/or a weapon upgrade system; or it can stay the same and be a useless mod just to see how man kills have you done with the shotgun
Nobody gives a shit Brunocar

By the way, still was enjoying an older version of this mod before noticing it had been updated. It's a nice change of tone without really changing game play and I appreciate that.

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:20 am
by wildweasel
darkhaven3 wrote:Nobody gives a shit Brunocar
It doesn't matter what "nobody" thinks, could you please not act like that in the future?

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:38 am
by brunocar
wildweasel wrote:
darkhaven3 wrote:Nobody gives a shit Brunocar
It doesn't matter what "nobody" thinks, could you please not act like that in the future?
thank you for not being the kind of admin that other forums have (an abusive brat) and for teaching manners to people
brunocar wrote: a arcade RPG style upgrade system
tapewave wrote:Doom RPG does that.
if you are thinking about that uncompressed, glitchy mess, no i dont want that; if you are thnking abut the mobile game you are just ignoring the fact that its complatly diferent
brunocar wrote: a weapon upgrade system
tapwave wrote:Defeats the point of the mod.
whats the point of it, please help me, i seriously dont get whats the point of it
brunocar wrote:or it can stay the same and be a useless mod just to see how man kills have you done with the shotgun
tapewave wrote:You do realize that's it's just supposed to make the vanilla experience a bit fresher by giving you an incentive for challenges. Otherwise it's just vanilla.
i find the fact that you used vanilla doom as a the template amusing, if you play doom normally you are just going to use the shotgun

Re: FragTrak²™

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:47 am
by Tapwave
brunocar wrote:whats the point of it, please help me, i seriously dont get whats the point of it
The point of it is that you have vanilla gameplay. But since you can quantify everything you do with your weapons, you should give yourself challenges. Like "Hey! I really want to get prestige 1 on my pistol, even if it's 1500 kills!" So you'll use stronger weapons to whittle down enemies before you can then whip out the pistol and finish them off for pistol kills. Which also gives you more XP since it's a weaker weapon.

Or you'll play on higher difficulties, trying to kill more enemies because you want more XP for the next rank. Or you'll use berserk packs as much as possible to get fist kills which give the most XP.
Or you'll forgo prestiges entirely and instead aim for the highest killcount on specific weapons, so you can brag about having 25500 kills on your pistol, or...

Get it now?
brunocar wrote:i find the fact that you used vanilla doom as a the template amusing, if you play doom normally you are just going to use the shotgun
Refer to my point above.

While it is true that via my playtesting, the first gun I got to prestige 8 was the super shotgun, all the other weapons still retain use. Chaingun for sniping enemies, fist when berserk for grinding xp and easy kills, chainsaw when out of ammo, shotgun in Doom 1, pistol when starting out, rocket launcher against tougher foes, plasma gun as a chaingun replacements sometimes, BFG for really tough enemies you need dead NOW like archviles.

So no, no weapon upgrades, and no rpg stuff. It's just counters.
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