[WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby Daniel2 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:21 pm

When i try this mod i have huge freezes when i use chainsaw, (i have somewhat high end PC) and with the BDSE_19_Actors_Fixed version i dont have anymore this but i have micro lags here and there constantly. vanilla BD works flawlessly on my PC.

BD Jhonny and Project brutality both gives me thoose constant wierd micro lags. basicaly every BD modification i tried are giving me micro lags while vanilla BD works just normaly.

PS : i tried theese mods without changing anything or adding any fancy stuff (high res textures etc, nothing was added!). I even removed lights.pk3 and brightmaps.pk3 just to see what was the real problem :S
Any help would be greatly apreciated. I was planing to try Beyong Hell and Earth with BDSE after see this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F7WoHPXYNw but it just dont work, byhae.pk3 dont even load, i laod in normal Doom 2 map 1 entryway :S
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby worldendDominator » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:00 am

Daniel2 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F7WoHPXYNw

That's an interesting video. Was that wad designed for BDSE? It has dying animations for custom enemies and stuff.
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby Daniel2 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:15 am

I do not know, i asked in the video comments, you can do same, waiting for an answer :S
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby shotfan » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:59 am

worldendDominator wrote:
Daniel2 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F7WoHPXYNw

That's an interesting video. Was that wad designed for BDSE? It has dying animations for custom enemies and stuff.

Regarding that video - can somebody explain to me how that "Hellish Rifle" appeared in BDSE? I played it (BDSE) sometime ago, and there were only the weapons from base BD. I did not see that weapon mentioned in the features' list on the first page either. So where does Hellish Rifle come form: is it from updated BDSE, or somewhere else (Project Brutality has a weapon that looks and functions the same - the Inferno mode of Hell Rifle... :?: )?
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby worldendDominator » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:30 am

I've looked into it. Beyond Hell and Earth is designed for BD and cannot run without it. Its custom enemies have gorn, special death animations, fatalities and so on.
Playing it right now, it's cool.

shotfan wrote:Regarding that video - can somebody explain to me how that "Hellish Rifle" appeared in BDSE? I played it (BDSE) sometime ago, and there were only the weapons from base BD. I did not see that weapon mentioned in the features' list on the first page either. So where does Hellish Rifle come form: is it from updated BDSE, or somewhere else (Project Brutality has a weapon that looks and functions the same - the Inferno mode of Hell Rifle... :?: )?

It's from the wad, not from BDSE. And it has a bug where it sometimes produces neck snap animations when you kill zombies with altfire :P
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby shotfan » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:03 am

Thanks for the clarification. Wads that combine new maps with new guns are, well, new to me :D
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby Daniel2 » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:21 am

Btw i found mysel ehat video settings he uses. Texture resise HQ4x MMX, its the best after many tests. I might make a post to explain why, + aniso 16x and trilinear filtering.
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby Cacobus » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:37 pm

Daniel2 wrote:Btw i found mysel ehat video settings he uses. Texture resise HQ4x MMX, its the best after many tests. I might make a post to explain why, + aniso 16x and trilinear filtering.
So did you ever figure out how to get BYHAE to run with Brutal doom SE?,and if so whats the trick too it?.Thanks
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby worldendDominator » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:34 pm

Load order is important. BDSE first, BYHAE second. Use ZDL if you can't get it right.
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby Daniel2 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:45 am

According to Project Brutality's readme file its first map files then mod file.

Extract from manual :

5. The load order should look something like this (from top to bottom)
a. (Map packs, Megawads, Wads, etc.)
b. Music Wads
c. PROJECT BRUTALITY 2.0
d. COMPATIBILITY PATCHES
e. HUD MODS f. Everything else

What to do?

e: made some test with this : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9W6PI ... ef=2&pli=1
It actualy works now with BD mod, i have to try now with BDSE (but BD SE is v19 as far as i know).
I tried the pack Beyong hell and earth packed with a BD mod in a single pk3 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=51689#p902154 . It worked but had some missing stuff (exclamation point in some maps) and i actualy saw no new weapons.

I stil havnt seen the red wierd rifle :(

Btw you were right its first : mod file then map file else it just dont load. Looks like PB manual is wrong. I was actualy searching for load order instructions few eeks ago as i am new to this new Doom thing that is zdoom etc but i couldnt find anything realy clear.

PS : the map design is realy nice. New monsters animations are also good etc.
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby Cacobus » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:51 am

Hey Daniel2,so let me get this straight,the BYHAE fix2 pk3 works with BD20b the newest version?is it a patch,that,I use with the BYHAE all in one version with Bd20b include in the pack? or do I run it with the latest version BD20b? Also interested to see if it runs with project brutality,or BDSE version 19.Thanks
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby Daniel2 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:15 am

I tired it with bd 20b and it works, and i saw the new weapons and missing items. Concidering it is 17MB max it obv does not have BD in it ;)
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby Daniel2 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:18 am

There is an effect making the whole screen shake wierdly when you fire (effect that is not so present in vanilla BD) that is just game breaking for me. Cant stand it :P

Btw no it does not work with BDSE. :F

Works with vanilla BD tho.
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Re: [WIP/Release] Brutal Doom SE

Postby nin90 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:46 pm

This is driving me insane.
Either I use the normal SE pk3 and get the suiciding enemies or I use the fixed actors pk3 and get obnoxious stuttering.

It worked just fine back when I played a whole bunch back in 2014. I tried older builds of GZDoom but it didn't make any difference.

Are older builds of SE available somewhere?

EDIT: Actually, rolling back to an older version of GZDoom helped. I picked one at random but it's version 1.8.00
Using the regular pk3 and no suiciding enemies anymore.
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