ZDoom

WolfMann wrote:Sooo.... I downloaded this mod with great hopes.... and got the same blood problem.
BUT (and it's a big but) I have noticed that the blood mod is on......... just toned down by a fuckton or only shows up if the enemy blows up to smitherens.
Anyway, I'll return to my bloodless game. ;-;

Edit: I am not hating on this game. THIS GAME IS the very definition of badassery all packed in less than 100 megabytes.
Also the Hello my Baby thing cracked me up.

Can you be a little more specific on the whole "blood problem" thing you mentioned? Please also let us know exactly what other mods you are running with this?

The only other mods I am running with Guncaster is Maps of Chaos and the DoomTestMap for testing stuff. In that order.

And the blood problem is as follows.

You know those amazingly fantastic (if you like gore) puffs of blood and blood pools that appear in Guncaster? Like those in ICARUS's or Martinos'z videos? Yeah, I have none of those... or do but toned down to 0.0000001. The mod works weird for me.

Edit: Just played Guncaster Vindicated.... And suddenly the blood stuff is back....
Edit 2: Only on Imps and even then only here and there....
Edit 3:And now it has turned off all together. Mods confuse me.

The BFG nuke strat is killing me sometimes. Load up Sunlust, idkfa, buy strat, shoot the door in front of you. You'll be fine.
Now warp to map18 and do it. Now it kills you. /shrug. Tested with gzdoom 3.5 and GC 3.1.

Wolfmann, download the newest gzdoom and install to a new folder. Load it up to create a new .ini. Get the basic controls set up. Exit game. Load GC with it now. Check the Dragons menu to make sure gore is turned on, it should be by default. Now blow up a zombieman. It should work fine.

Rowsol wrote:The BFG nuke strat is killing me sometimes. Load up Sunlust, idkfa, buy strat, shoot the door in front of you. You'll be fine.
Now warp to map18 and do it. Now it kills you. /shrug. Tested with gzdoom 3.5 and GC 3.1.

killing voodoo dolls throught walls?

Ahh, good thinking. Yeah, probably. I wonder if there's a fix for this.

Okay, so apparently they are just copies of you, so setting damagefactor to 0 for tiberium works.

WolfMann wrote:The only other mods I am running with Guncaster is Maps of Chaos and the DoomTestMap for testing stuff. In that order.

And the blood problem is as follows.

You know those amazingly fantastic (if you like gore) puffs of blood and blood pools that appear in Guncaster? Like those in ICARUS's or Martinos'z videos? Yeah, I have none of those... or do but toned down to 0.0000001. The mod works weird for me.

Edit: Just played Guncaster Vindicated.... And suddenly the blood stuff is back....

Hm... Maps of chaos and the test map shouldn't do anything to change blood.

Guncaster Vindicated uses the same blood as Guncaster Official
Here is a video comparison of the two in DOOM2 map01 with a fresh copy of GZDoom 3.4.1:

Spoiler:

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(GZDoom 3.5.0 is missing critical features for youtubers such as display resolution adjustment in the menu, so I'll use it when those features are present, I know console stuff exists but this is a bit much to ask of the average user; So I'll be recommending 3.4.1 for this until GZDoom 3.5 is updated.)

To my eye there really isn't much difference, only a tiny bit and that might just be because of slightly higher monster health in Vindicated, so they're able to trigger more blood from the Longhorn (as it technically hits them multiple times in the same instant). There really shouldn't be any difference at all when comparing high health monsters like the fat guys.

Wolfmann, download the newest gzdoom and install to a new folder. Load it up to create a new .ini. Get the basic controls set up. Exit game. Load GC with it now. Check the Dragons menu to make sure gore is turned on, it should be by default. Now blow up a zombieman. It should work fine.

Do this, it will likely solve your problem, I'd recommend 3.4.1 for now, but you can use 3.5.0 if you're willing to work around the issues mentioned in the spoiler or use the dev build to work around this and that.

P.S. Thanks for giving Vindicated a shot! If you like it let me know what you think in the thread for the mod.

I did it with 3.5.0 and nope. Blood's still barely a spurt from an empty ketchup bottle. Didn't have any mods other than Guncaster/ Guncaster Vindicated.

Say.... Was there a reduction in weapon damage in the other versions?

Roswol, just override the player's DamageMobj function. Have it so that it returns 0 if it's being damaged by checking if the player pawn receiving damage is the same one you're manipulating.
No need to use hacks when you can just bypass Voodoo Doll damage entirely.

Excuse me for asking this, but... can someone please help me get the bird spell from 2.6 version in to 3.1 (last) version to work?? Just copy-pasting the code from old version to new one result in to birds losing their shadow-ghostly visual mode and ability... how do I say this... illusional-trace-doublecation effect(?). While this is just visual aspect, it still bugs me a lot. And the reason I want birds from 2.6 is because new birds just doesn't feel useful\powerful enough.

I can upload full 2.6 guncaster file once I find it, in case nobody has copy of it left anywhere.

Thunderstruck Tomed seems to cause the game to crash when it tries to cast without enough mana (This was already mentioned yea... but there's something else!!! I think there's an ACS script that's missing.)

This code begins on /Decorate/Spells/Thunderstruck.txt Line 740 and ends on line 772

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// Line 739
Cycle:
		"####" "#" 0 { User_Cycle = random(105,115); }
	Main:

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
		TFLR A 1 Bright {                     
               //I think this particular statement is jumping immediately to CheckForTarget without allowing a game tick to actually happen.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

			if(CountInv("PowerSuitToken",AAPTR_TARGET)) { //&& !target.GetCvar("GC_NoExtraHeight") this won't work, oops; didn't think it through.
				User_PowerHeight = 20;
			} else {
				User_PowerHeight = 0;
			}
			A_Warp(AAPTR_TARGET,0,0,85+User_PowerHeight,0,WARPF_INTERPOLATE|WARPF_NOCHECKPOSITION);
			A_SpawnItemEx("RajtninguLajtningu",frandom(5.0,-5.0),frandom(5.0,-5.0),
				frandom(5.0,-5.0),0,0,0,0,SXF_CLIENTSIDE|SXF_ORIGINATOR|SXF_SETMASTER,60);
			A_SetUserVar("User_Cycle", User_Cycle - 1);
			A_SetUserVar("User_NoisyCricket", User_NoisyCricket + 1);
			If(User_NoisyCricket <= 420) {
				A_PlaySound("Thunderstorm/Idle",7,0.9);
				A_SetUserVar("User_NoisyCricket",0);
			}
			If(User_Cycle <= 0) { Return State("CheckForTarget"); }
			Return A_JumpIf(CountInv("StormTrigger",AAPTR_TARGET) || !CountInv("PowerTomeEffect",AAPTR_TARGET), "Death");
		}
		Loop
	CheckForTarget:
		"####" "#" 0 A_JumpIf(!CountInv("PowerTomeEffect",AAPTR_TARGET) || CountInv("StormTrigger",AAPTR_TARGET), "Death")
		"####" "#" 0 A_JumpIf(CountInv("Mana",AAPTR_TARGET) >= 60, 2)

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
		"####" "#" 0 A_JumpIf(CallACS("TracerDeathCheck"), "ClearTracer")  
                // I think this script is removed.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
                // This is where the problem seems to start, seems to be an infinite loop happening because it's sent back to main 
                // and jumping back to this area without letting a game tick pass.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

		Goto Main
		TFLR A 1 Bright {
			A_SeekerMissile(0,0,SMF_LOOK|SMF_CURSPEED,256,6);
			A_SpawnItemEx("RajtninguLajtningu",frandom(5.0,-5.0),
				frandom(5.0,-5.0),frandom(5.0,-5.0),0,0,0,0,
				SXF_CLIENTSIDE|SXF_ORIGINATOR|SXF_SETMASTER,60);
			Return A_Warp(AAPTR_TRACER,0,0,85,0,WARPF_INTERPOLATE|WARPF_NOCHECKPOSITION,"DropTheHammer",1);
		}
		Goto Main
// Line 773 Script continues...

The comments state my hypothesis on this whole shebang, I may not be 100% correct but adding a tick where the second comment is, right before Goto Main seemed to make the issue go away, I have no idea if this will cause other problems.
Another note, I think the ACS Script "TracerDeathCheck" has been removed in GC_3.1 as this is part of the "No couches here only acid" directory in the GAMESTUF.acs source.

EDIT:

PillowBlaster wrote:The delay is not a good fix, as if I remember right - it would start shooting stupidly rapid instead, as it'd never resets the delay tokens.

CURSES!!! back to the drawing board....

WolfMann wrote:I did it with 3.5.0 and nope. Blood's still barely a spurt from an empty ketchup bottle. Didn't have any mods other than Guncaster/ Guncaster Vindicated.

Say.... Was there a reduction in weapon damage in the other versions?

There is indeed a problem... I just found it, sorry for confusing you.

I'll report what the actual issue is to the devs. I'll leave it up to them whether they want to bother with this insanity or not. As far as Vindicated goes, I'll try to have it fixed by the next update unless it causes serious issues that jack with the gameplay experience I'm trying to provide.

I dunno about the gore, but I did fix the thunderstruck a while ago; Rowsol reported that via PMs and I couldn't nail it down, but I snooped around long enough to find it. Didn't think about running out of mana, I thought it had to be the projectile doing it. ACS call wouldn't freeze the game, I simply forgot to wipe that check out. The delay is not a good fix, as if I remember right - it would start shooting stupidly rapid instead, as it'd never resets the delay tokens.

I remember the gore thing also being an issue in the recent Brutal Doom and Ketchup mods. Someone uploaded a fix called Ketchup5r. Maybe if you can find that you can compare code and fix the gore issue.

I know that in the 3.1 version of Guncaster's changelog PillowBlaster said Annihilation is now fixed and invisible bfg's rays (or however you call them) finally do damage, but... I hardly ever manage to see that they actually hit anyone, even if the enemy is direcly infront of me. I did a few tests and there are extremely rare occassions when I actually hit anyone with invisible bfg rays and they usually tend to do tiny amount of damage toward enemy that only push them slightly tiny bit and only rarely kill a single imp, yet often it seems that they got kille from splash damage itself. In 3.0 version of guncaster, when I stand next to an enemy and the Annihilation ball hit a wall infront of me, I see a huge amount of rays hitting the enemy, doing zero daamge. But in 3.1 version, when I do EXACTLY the same test, I don't even manage to hit enemy once with any of the rays. How exactly do they work? I suppose the original invisible bfg rays came directly from the player itself in the direction you shoot the ball, and I'd expect it'd do the same in Guncaster, at least I hella wish the rays came from the player itself rather than ball or anything else. I REALLY love these invisible bfg rays from Annihilation spell anyway, the mechanic itself is very appealing and beautiful even though it hardly ever hit anyone in current version and in previous version it didn't do damage at all.

Also, I feel like ass for reporting this bug, but enhanced Sheepshield sometimes bugs out... There are rare occassions where reflected enemies' projectile just stuck in aim and you can't do anything about it, yet when you run over that projectile, it will damage you. I guess you can prevent it by turning any incoming projectiles in to empowered grey projectiles once they get reflected, like what do you get when you use draugh ghost mode with maximum Traveler's Journal, but I guess it's not necessary as this happens rarely on very random occassions. It's not a big deal, really. But I just wanted to be useful and report it anyway. Plz don't remove the ability of supersheeps to reflect all projectiles back to enemies. ; ;

Christ alive this mod is just the epitome of "We should've stopped a long time ago but fuck it let's keep going and see where it gets us" huh? Good shit.