DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby ErrantMasa » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:43 pm

Viscra Maelstrom wrote:the Plasmatic Shotgun with two tech mods applies reloads quite a bit slower in comparison to the Heavy Shotgun with the same mods applied, making it somewhat inferior to use.


Heavy shotty/elephant gun +2T is a perennial early-game fave of mine if said tech mods show up a little too often :roll:
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby Slax » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:03 pm

I can't believe that this isn't a thing yet, Yholl. The most legendary of weapons.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby WolfMann » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:22 am

Alright. I can't find any information about it anywhere so...


De-Vile.... 666hp... nothing harms it. What do I treat with?
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby rabid marine » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:27 am

WolfMann wrote:Alright. I can't find any information about it anywhere so...


De-Vile.... 666hp... nothing harms it. What do I treat with?

Shoot the floating sixes circling it's head.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby tyrantkyng » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:39 pm

Just a quick couple of questions for the mod maker:

A) Is this going to be updated in the near future? I would LOVE to see more gear/equipment, weapons and/or mod packs/assemblies added. Have played with the mod so much there just isn't anything left I haven't used so much already.

B) If updating in the near future, would you consider adding more silenced weapons and an invisibility power-up, or at least make it so, if 'seen', you can kill nearby demons that are actively attacking you or headed towards you, then wait it out for a minute or so (would need a count-down timer on-screen) and the remaining demons in the level go back to the 'not alert' state (similar to how they don't 'know you're there at the beginning of levels)? I know the 'waiting it out' for a whole minute or more goes against what Doom is all about, but think about it.... it's optional to even use this 'stealth' feature and some people (including me) spend at least 2 or 3 mins just searching every cleared out section, looking for health, power-ups, upgrades, weapons, armor, etc... so the time required to set the monsters back to a 'relaxed' state wouldn't even be noticeable if you don't just fly through the levels on easy. Not to mention this 'stealth-ing' feature would add a whole new way to play the entire game (save for certain levels where it may not be possible and should you want to) and forgive me for assuming this, but compared to the rest of the mod, would probably not be that difficult to implement as it's a very simplified version of stealth.

Thanks so much for the mod, regardless! Love it so much, man.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby ZikShadow » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:49 pm

tyrantkyng wrote:Not-exactly-simple stealth mechanic.


Sounds like you'll be better off trying something like Sneaky Doom?
The Download in the thread is broken though, use this one to acquire it.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby TDRR » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:17 pm

tyrantkyng wrote:If updating in the near future, would you consider adding more silenced weapons and an invisibility power-up, or at least make it so, if 'seen', you can kill nearby demons that are actively attacking you or headed towards you, then wait it out for a minute or so (would need a count-down timer on-screen) and the remaining demons in the level go back to the 'not alert' state (similar to how they don't 'know you're there at the beginning of levels)? I know the 'waiting it out' for a whole minute or more goes against what Doom is all about, but think about it.... it's optional to even use this 'stealth' feature and some people (including me) spend at least 2 or 3 mins just searching every cleared out section, looking for health, power-ups, upgrades, weapons, armor, etc... so the time required to set the monsters back to a 'relaxed' state wouldn't even be noticeable if you don't just fly through the levels on easy. Not to mention this 'stealth-ing' feature would add a whole new way to play the entire game (save for certain levels where it may not be possible and should you want to) and forgive me for assuming this, but compared to the rest of the mod, would probably not be that difficult to implement as it's a very simplified version of stealth.


This can be done, but it's not possible to have a timer on-screen telling you the time it would take for a monster to go inactive.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby SiFi270 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:16 am

I wonder if any of this project's contributors have checked out Jupiter Hell, and if so, if there's anything in it they'd be interested in implementing.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby DarkkOne » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:47 pm

In the fullscreen HUD, what's the yellow bar to the right of the indicators that show how many weapons, armor pieces, etc, you have?
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby rabid marine » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:21 pm

DarkkOne wrote:In the fullscreen HUD, what's the yellow bar to the right of the indicators that show how many weapons, armor pieces, etc, you have?

I think that might be the stamina bar, you use up stamina when performing melee attacks, or double jumping as scout.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby DarkkOne » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:40 pm

rabid marine wrote:
DarkkOne wrote:In the fullscreen HUD, what's the yellow bar to the right of the indicators that show how many weapons, armor pieces, etc, you have?

I think that might be the stamina bar, you use up stamina when performing melee attacks, or double jumping as scout.


That would explain why I never saw it move. Wasn't jumping, wasn't meleeing. Thanks. That's probably it.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby aqkko » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:41 am

Man, I love your weapon mods (you're responsible for Final Doomer and Legendoom as well, right?), but I realized something that they all have in common, something that I can't come to terms with: strafe speed is slowed. If that's intentional, would you please consider making it optional in the settings? I've never asked a modder for anything before! But I'm asking for this! :)
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby Yholl » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:05 am

tyrantkyng wrote:A) Is this going to be updated in the near future?
You betcha, should not be too far off. There's plans for tons of content into the distant future, don't worry.
tyrantkyng wrote:B) Stealthy stealth mechanics?
That's not really feasible or within the project's scope, sorry. There will be more silenced weapons in the future though!

SiFi270 wrote:I wonder if any of this project's contributors have checked out Jupiter Hell, and if so, if there's anything in it they'd be interested in implementing.
I have indeed (I possibly lurk nearby) but this project will very much remain Doom-related. If anything Jupiter Hell appears in DRLA, it'll be like the unique weapons such as the MA-75B Assault Rifle from Marathon, etc. a single reference gun or so.

aqkko wrote:Man, I love your weapon mods (you're responsible for Final Doomer and Legendoom as well, right?), but I realized something that they all have in common, something that I can't come to terms with: strafe speed is slowed. If that's intentional, would you please consider making it optional in the settings? I've never asked a modder for anything before! But I'm asking for this! :)
Strafe speed is not slowed at all. Walking speed is slowed.
I assume you must be playing with a controller or something? I've heard that they have trouble with this.

In any case, no, I can't make it optional, and no, I won't remove it. However! If you get the program SLADE 3, it's very simple and easy to edit my mods to remove that movement speed change entirely from them.
For DRLA, open up Arsenal, and go into the actors/ folder, in there, at the bottom, you'll find ArsenalPlayerPawn.txt. Click on that and you'll see the player code, and most importantly, you'll see
    Player.Forwardmove 0.6 1.0
    Player.Sidemove 0.6 1.0
This is the movement stuff, which makes walking 40% slower than normal. Simply delete these lines, save the txt file, and then save the pk3, and BAM. Your version of the mod will no longer bother you with movement problems.

LegenDoom and Final Doomer have the playerpawn code easily visible compared to DRLA, and the same thing applies to them too. Either way, I'm glad you're having fun with these mods.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby aqkko » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:44 am

Yeah, man. Love those guns.

I am using a controller. I mapped the run/walk toggle to one of the sticks (when you press the stick button - L3 maybe they call it). But it's always on. My forward movement is fast. Just the strafing seems slow. But I'll try the solution you gave me. Thanks.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

Postby Yholl » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:10 am

aqkko wrote:I am using a controller. I mapped the run/walk toggle to one of the sticks (when you press the stick button - L3 maybe they call it). But it's always on. My forward movement is fast. Just the strafing seems slow. But I'll try the solution you gave me. Thanks.
Yeah, sorry about that, someone else I know ran into the same problem at one point.
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