DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.1] [MP-B7.1]

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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby NickDoom » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:38 pm

Another idea is a hand grenade.
This time with an ancient, sadistically hardcore Russian mod. You can take them from it (but I don't like those sprites and the lack of animation).
Those grenades are actually warheads detached from UAC rockets, so if you have rockets without a launcher, you can simply throw them with your hand.
Alternate attack (activated with "use" key) is the classic punch.
Bad thing alternate fist attack in DRLA is already occupied with the "kick attack" :(

1, 2, 3 of 4:
altfire_vol01.zip
An ancient, Doom Bible themed mod.
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altfire_vol02.zip
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altfire_vol03.zip
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby NickDoom » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:39 pm

Vol. 4 of 4
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby NickDoom » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:17 am

I hope it's not TOO offtopic, but if one wants to actually try to play it,
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and only then you'll have a tiny chance to win.
Or, without spoilers, pay attention to every sound and every texture around, proceed with extreme caution and think twice before exploring new areas. You don't have nearly enough ammo to fight. And even with all puzzles solved, you'll still have to rely on the best player skills (or how it should be said in English?).
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby wildweasel » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:48 am

What on Earth are those spoilers about?
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby NickDoom » Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:42 am

About this 800Kb mod, posted in prev. two messages.
I suggest to make hand grenades in DRLA. Similar to this mod.
So I've posted it as an example of hand grenades. There is also a bayonet in this mod, but this is not important.

Spoilers are least important thing here, because this mod has been posted not for playing it, but as a source of grenades.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby ErrantMasa » Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:01 pm

I don't remember hand grenades being in DooMRL/DRL proper, and I'm not convinced DRLA needs them either. :|

Variant Grenade launchers are also forthcoming in 1.1, iirc. :mrgreen:
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby Bofubutt » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:22 pm

I agree that we should try to keep the ambitious suggestions to a bare minimum. As of last check in, there was a shrinking list of to-do items for Yholl, and those of us who aren't privy to the in-progress product have no idea what sorts of changes have been implemented already.

Even if someone wanted to take a crack at making your own mutator, any work you did on it would be pointless due to the complete overhaul that's still coming out. I'd be much more interested in someone picking DoomRPG+RLA back up (but maybe streamlining it considerably), myself.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby Yholl » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:53 am

Please don't spam random stuff in this thread, NickDoom.

NickDoom wrote:1) A skill level bigger than UV, but not as specialized as Ar, TF and NM. It's UV + fast + aggressive (but NO respawning) and with higher chance of spawning Nm, Tech monsters etc. I mean, I can barely meet 1 or 2 Cacoabysses on skill 4, but spawning ONLY Cacoabysses lacks diversity.
The next release will have Adaptive difficulty, which starts similar to the lower difficulties with mostly normal enemies, and slowly scales up through Nightmare/Technophobia till it reaches pure Armageddon.
NickDoom wrote:2) Different Nazis! Not that dumb as they are now, no friendly fire, faster and deadlier. Some of them drop an MP38 (there are good sprites in ROTT). Also maybe replace Keen with somebody dangerous? :)
I won't touch the Nazis for purely compatibility reasons. Nazis are often altered by dehacked, along with stuff like Commander Keens, so I won't do anything to mess with them.
NickDoom wrote:4) Chain Assemblies, yes! But at most one secret assembly. Such as Heavy Tactical Shotgun (but no such thing as Plasmatic one) etc. Few "guess is it possible" combinations which do not break the balance. Maybe (High Power)² Minigun (but with Marine class it can be overpowered).
10000% absolutely not no never
NickDoom wrote:1) Flames should cause much more light in the sector, probably flickering. It'll allow to effectively operate in dark areas with the flamethrower.
In a later update, I'll add dynamic lights to drla, along with particles, much like LegenDoom and Final Doomer, but that will take time and I'm not willing to put off 1.1 for that.
NickDoom wrote:Another idea is a hand grenade.
Yeah, at some point in the future, I will make grenades and land mines as weapons.

ErrantMasa wrote:Variant Grenade launchers are also forthcoming in 1.1, iirc. :mrgreen:
Afraid not, I don't have any update plans for those yet. They will appear eventually, but not in 1.1 or even 1.2.

Bofubutt wrote:I agree that we should try to keep the ambitious suggestions to a bare minimum. As of last check in, there was a shrinking list of to-do items for Yholl, and those of us who aren't privy to the in-progress product have no idea what sorts of changes have been implemented already.
Suggestions are fine, nothing will get in the way of 1.1, as anything I'd accept I'd do in a much later update.

My todo list is at 3 things right now, but is stalled because fffffuuuuug I don't wanna aaaaaa
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby NickDoom » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:27 am

Yholl wrote:Please don't spam random stuff in this thread, NickDoom.


Sir yes sir! :)

Yholl wrote:The next release will have Adaptive difficulty, which starts similar to the lower difficulties with mostly normal enemies, and slowly scales up through Nightmare/Technophobia till it reaches pure Armageddon.


o_o

Yholl wrote:In a later update, I'll add dynamic lights to drla, along with particles, much like LegenDoom and Final Doomer, but that will take time and I'm not willing to put off 1.1 for that.


O_o

Yholl wrote:Yeah, at some point in the future, I will make grenades and land mines as weapons.


o_O

Yholl wrote:My todo list is at 3 things right now


O_O
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\(T∇T)/

Yholl wrote:Nazis are often altered by dehacked, along with stuff like Commander Keens, so I won't do anything to mess with them.


That's the area where I can do anything I want to, without interfering with the project :twisted:

Yholl wrote:Suggestions are fine, nothing will get in the way of 1.1, as anything I'd accept I'd do in a much later update.


Can the new particle system handle such things as carrying damage around a corner? For example, exploding HP NukeBFG spawns some big particles (blobs) which move fast and kill even faster. Their cloud expands quickly, filling all reachable areas and wiping them.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby zrrion the insect » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:00 pm

being asked not to put random stuff in the thread didn't really warrant a mostly random reply. Your last question is good though.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby Yholl » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:36 pm

Yholl wrote:Please don't spam random stuff in this thread, NickDoom.

NickDoom wrote:Can the new particle system handle such things as carrying damage around a corner? For example, exploding HP NukeBFG spawns some big particles (blobs) which move fast and kill even faster. Their cloud expands quickly, filling all reachable areas and wiping them.
Particles are just particles, little colored dots. That's all they are.

I've got no plans to have explosions reach around corners.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby Bofubutt » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:00 pm

Yholl wrote:I've got no plans to have explosions reach around corners.


I agree that this is the best choice. Just imagine how bad nuke barrels would be if you couldn't hide out of line-of-sight to avoid the instadeath. And I say this as someone who makes a happy little noise every time I see a nuke barrel spawn in a level.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby NickDoom » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:46 am

Laconic mode on No, no, not nuke barrels of course. Some exotic cases such as NukeBFG. Press fire, drop it, use a phase device and watch from a safe place :twisted: IMO it's costly enough to make it THAT powerful.
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby wildweasel » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:39 am

NickDoom wrote:Laconic mode on No, no, not nuke barrels of course. Some exotic cases such as NukeBFG. Press fire, drop it, use a phase device and watch from a safe place :twisted: IMO it's costly enough to make it THAT powerful.

But there's still the issue of actually coding that in a sane way. How would you make that work, in a way that doesn't utterly murder the framerate?
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Re: DoomRL Arsenal - [1.05] [MP-B6.2]

Postby TDRR » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:53 am

So this mod is still alive? Awesome!

This is one of my favorite mods to play with megawads, my only complaint is that the weapons feel weak.
I mean, they are good in terms of damage, but when i fire them there isn't any recoil to them, not view recoil (even if just cosmetic) nor physical recoil.

Some also don't sound too good, but that's fixed with wildweasel's sound pack.
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