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Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:27 am
by Princess Viscra Maelstrom
i believe the female civilians are basically just replaced power-ups, so i dunno how you'd go about making them more rare. aside from maybe let another civilian spawn with a weaker upgrade, and let the female ones be rarer as a result.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:54 am
by Captain J
maybe Faster or dodging moves, rapid fire, weaker health or more ammo drops would make 'em really different IMO.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:15 am
by TheBadHustlex
Viscra Maelstrom wrote:i believe the female civilians are basically just replaced power-ups, so i dunno how you'd go about making them more rare. aside from maybe let another civilian spawn with a weaker upgrade, and let the female ones be rarer as a result.


Or the upgrade-kit could just give you a certain ammount of experience-points, not a whole level-up.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:18 pm
by Slax
Can't wait. So wanna get back to blasting those mouthy bastards into the dirt.
Almost... makes me wanna work out how to fit some gore into the death animations. Mwehehehe...

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Not sure if Blood style quite cuts it.
Probably gonna have to cut down on the allowed amount of red variants. Tricky.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:15 pm
by Zhs2
Linda the Office Lady replaces blurspheres - I think one is arguably more valuable than the other. Still, even in a megawad without so many of those, you'll find yourself upgrading all of the weapons to max before MAP18 if you use them correctly. Protip: go for the pistol first, the last upgrade makes it far more valuable for killing any enemy lower than Mancubus quickly in a tough spot.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:16 pm
by -Ghost-
Slax wrote:Can't wait. So wanna get back to blasting those mouthy bastards into the dirt.
Almost... makes me wanna work out how to fit some gore into the death animations. Mwehehehe...

Image
Not sure if Blood style quite cuts it.
Probably gonna have to cut down on the allowed amount of red variants. Tricky.


More blood/gore would be a good addition.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:17 pm
by Ed the Bat
The pistol upgrades with fewer kills than many of the other guns. I'd say to use the Ibex kit on something that would take longer on its own.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:20 pm
by Captain J
Slax wrote:Image
Not sure if Blood style quite cuts it.
Probably gonna have to cut down on the allowed amount of red variants. Tricky.
if someone actally can make more gore addon, i would be so happy. Recent action film always had some unnecessary but satisfying gores and violence.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:49 pm
by insightguy
I wonder if weasel can add a thing where some enemies can surrender after seeing so many of their comrades die like in NARC(the arcade game). You ARE police after all are you not?

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:03 pm
by Captain J
Then it'll be require some of newly added sprites, such as reaching arms to the sky. And i think making a new sprites with those won't be easy. I mean, they're made out of real life pictures without any polishing like what RoTT did.

Oh, and about surrendering, they can be arrested, right?

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:10 am
by wildweasel
This is honestly one of those things that I don't really want to do because I can't think of any good gameplay function for it. The obvious answer is "make them give more experience," but how would they be triggered? What conditions would they choose to surrender? And how the hell would I get the sprites?

Remember, the theme is Police Brutality. That taser is for setting dudes on fire, not for non-lethal incapacitation. =P

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:18 am
by Slax
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Man, this is gonna be tricky.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:55 am
by NantoCodd
SidDoyle's Droplets Gore mod compatible with WW's mods that use projectile bullet including this, just info for anyone who wants more gore for this mod.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:25 am
by insightguy
wildweasel wrote:This is honestly one of those things that I don't really want to do because I can't think of any good gameplay function for it. The obvious answer is "make them give more experience," but how would they be triggered? What conditions would they choose to surrender? And how the hell would I get the sprites?

Remember, the theme is Police Brutality. That taser is for setting dudes on fire, not for non-lethal incapacitation. =P


Well If you want to follow NARC's example, only when you kill multiple enemies in one shot, (this is possible, dukewooze's commando makes ludicrous gibs appear everytime you kill 3 or more enemies in one shot with the tnt.)
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script 702 (void)
{
   Delay(10);
   if((CheckWeapon("TNTBUNDLE")) && (CheckInventory("LudiGibs") != 1) && ( CheckInventory("KillCounter") == 3) )
   {
      GiveInventory("LudiGibs",1);
      Delay(10);
      if(CheckInventory("Health") > 0)
         ActivatorSound("Taunts/Gibs",277);
         SetFont("BIGFONT");
         HudMessage(s:"LUDICROUS GIBS!!!"; HUDMSG_FADEOUT, 0, CR_RED, 0.5, 0.25, 1.5, 3.3);
      Delay(35*6);
   }
   else if (CheckInventory("LudiGibs") == 1)
   {
      Delay(35*2);
   }
   TakeInventory("KillCounter",5);
   TakeInventory("LudiGibs",1);
}


I know this is gives the "item" to the player but If you can make the "item" use A_radiusgive to give nearby enemies a custom item to give them a chance to get to a custom state.

Mockup Example: (made in 1 min)
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Actor Fearstategiver : CustomInventory
   {
   States
   {
      Pickup:
      TNT1 A 0 A_Radiusgive (Fearstate, 256)
      stop
   }
}


As for the reward....I dunno, your right. Can't really think of anything unless you want to make specific upgrades that can be obtained from them
... or, just give bonuses every time you kill someone who surrenders :twisted: .

As for the sprites, just use the standing sprite with a white flag hovering on top of them (like the use sign on top of the civilians)

...But then again, this is your mod so feel free to tell me to fuck off.

Re: Police Brutality (Weasel Presents: Terrorists!): Update

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:29 am
by Captain J
wildweasel wrote:The obvious answer is "make them give more experience," but how would they be triggered? What conditions would they choose to surrender? And how the hell would I get the sprites?
well i presume they can be triggered into surrender with getting custominventory based item too much when some of enemies goes death state. but like you said, we need new sprites. so it doesn't need to be think about it seriously anyway. no mercy, all law.

Slax wrote:Image Image
Man, this is gonna be tricky.
A-re you sure, Slax? :shock: