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Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:36 am
by Xtyfe
Nash wrote:@NightFright:

I have been playing with a personal fork of this mod that adds the following:

- screen recoil FX (purely camera-only; it does not physically alter the player's pitch. Utilizes bleeding edge ViewAngles feature of GZDoom to achieve this)
- bullet casings (all-new not-seen-anywhere sprites and sounds made by me)
- true 3D cone for hitscans (meaning when you look straight up/down and fire the shotgun/SSG, the bullets actually spread correctly, instead of just being a single straight line. Same goes for the pistol and chaingun; the spread is true 3D)
- visible bullet tracers (using a model; therefore not compatible with the software renderer)
- enhanced bullet ricochet effects (the vanilla puff is unaltered; I just spawn extra effects for the ricochet. These effects are surface-normal-aware; they align to the flat/wall angle. Uses models, won't work in software)
- floor/ceiling bullet holes and scorch marks for the rocket, plasma and BFG (again, uses models; won't work in software)
- dynamic blood stains on chainsaw - monster blood color-aware! The blood stains are universally compatible with any blood color, the stains dynamically change color depending on what was sawed
- also manually merged in m8f's "fire at crosshair" feature

These are my personal tweaks that I enjoy playing with, but keeping in mind with the original concept of the mod that they must fit the vanilla aesthetics. And IMO I've achieved that.

I'm unsure if you have any interest in having these in the main mod. If you are, I can merged them in, of course with all of them disabled by default. Though there is one catch:

It's either all or none. Since these are my own personal tweaks, I will not go through the trouble of selectively adding one or two features for the sake of other peoples' convenience. It's quite a bit of work to code these in the first place and I simply have no energy to separate each part out individually. Either take them all or reject them entirely.

And again, as I said, if you want these in the main mod, they will be disabled by default so they don't even exist to the first-time user. :)

Thoughts?


Hey Nash, would you ever release these as is? I'd be interested in them being alongside this mod even if only unofficially

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:53 am
by Nash
I have every intention to release it. :) Currently the changes are only done locally; I have not pushed them to NightFright's repo yet because they're not at a level of polish I am satisfied with yet and I don't want anyone prematurely using them (as once it's out in the wild; it's out of my control).

The enhancements will come - just give me time. Currently I'm very busy with several different projects, as well as coping with some health problems very recently which severely limits the amount of time I get to spend on computer activities.

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:56 pm
by Assassin of Purity
Doesn't work on Zandronum anymore. What did you do???

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:11 pm
by wildweasel
Assassin of Purity wrote:Doesn't work on Zandronum anymore. What did you do???

What doesn't work about it? Do you get a message?

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:55 am
by NightFright
If Zandronum is not on the same code level as GZDoom 4.3.0, it might not work, indeed. But you should have noticed that a while ago already, then.

Zandronum hasn't been updated in the last three years. Last mod version that might load is v2.0, before we switched to ZScript. There's no chance we are going back to a non-ZScript release, it's a one-way road.

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:14 pm
by Assassin of Purity
NightFright wrote:If Zandronum is not on the same code level as GZDoom 4.3.0, it might not work, indeed. But you should have noticed that a while ago already, then.

Zandronum hasn't been updated in the last three years. Last mod version that might load is v2.0, before we switched to ZScript. There's no chance we are going back to a non-ZScript release, it's a one-way road.

Why use ZScript? These are smooth weapon animations. What did you add that requires ZScript?

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:37 pm
by Gifty
Zscript makes a lot of customization options much cleaner and easier to implement. People often clamor for tweaks and options in their weapon mods. Providing that stuff in-game through Zscript keeps things way easier to support and maintain, and means you don't have to juggle 5+ different wads for one mod like in the olden days!

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:50 am
by NightFright
Yepp. And there are a lot of convenience features like stuff you can toggle on-the-fly through the menu for which you had to mess with config files before or even load a different mod version. So yeah, if you are using Zandronum only, you will be stuck with mod version v2.0, unfortunately.

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:03 am
by Assassin of Purity
Gifty wrote:Zscript makes a lot of customization options much cleaner and easier to implement. People often clamor for tweaks and options in their weapon mods. Providing that stuff in-game through Zscript keeps things way easier to support and maintain, and means you don't have to juggle 5+ different wads for one mod like in the olden days!

I don't mind having two versions that are separate that work on a specific source port. It's better than not having a version of the mod for that source port at all. :)

Aren't there Zandronum mods that have options for changes such as Samsara Extra Heroes? In a menu found there you can choose to be Gordon or Adrian Shephard, they have different weapons, and of course different arms. They're even 3D. You can choose to have the mission packs version of Wolf 3D's weapons. You can even choose to turn smooth weapons for the Doom Marine on or off. The settings in the menus are set up well.

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:56 am
by NightFright
I really don't think there will be a Zandronum version of any 3.x release. It basically became a GZD-only thing with the introduction of ZScript. We cannot make it right for everybody.

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:23 am
by Assassin of Purity
NightFright wrote:I really don't think there will be a Zandronum version of any 3.x release. It basically became a GZD-only thing with the introduction of ZScript. We cannot make it right for everybody.

Don't tell me Zandronum will die just because of ZScript. Aren't source ports to play Doom with?

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:59 am
by NightFright
Write to the Zandronum authors to update their port. That's all the advice I can give you.

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:02 am
by Assassin of Purity
NightFright wrote:Write to the Zandronum authors to update their port. That's all the advice I can give you.

Well Zandronum has a lot of its own mods. There's even smooth weapon animation mods for it, so no problem really. There's still the old version of your animation mod here.

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:46 am
by BerserkerNoir
My favorite to play smooth vanilla without all the other stuff that other mods have.
Made a Neural Upscale for it.
For Anyone interested, here.
Google Drive

Re: Smooth Weapons Enhanced [v3.2.1]

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:10 pm
by acridAxid
I have a sudden need for a version thats compatible with LZDoom. If I'm reading correctly, that's 2.0. I thought I had it, but I guess I tidied up my archives without considering the compatibility issue. Does anyone have a copy of that laying around?