Hideous Destructor 4.3.3d

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Re: Hideous Destructor

Postby bendix-hyde » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:39 pm

Caligari87 wrote:@bendix-hyde: I think the base weapons are pretty set at the moment. There's been some talk about modding in a lever-action .355 cowboy rifle (somewhat more damage and accuracy due to the longer barrel helping the round go faster), which I think would be the most fun option since you could use the same ammo for both your primary and your secondary. Unfortunately no one's really done it yet.

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Hot damn, that would be fun. I love lever guns.
Here's hoping someone does it, heck, it might pop up as an addon by Potetobloke in the future
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Re: Hideous Destructor

Postby Tartlman » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:21 am

if someone provides the sprites i might make it.
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Re: Hideous Destructor

Postby DrunkenSailor » Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:32 am

Is the discord server active/alive? There is no link in the main post and every invite link I found in this topic is outdated.
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Re: Hideous Destructor

Postby Caligari87 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:14 am

Yes, moreso than this thread actually! :laff:

Here's a new invite link: https://discord.gg/Cfef6jE

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Re: Hideous Destructor

Postby DrunkenSailor » Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:11 pm

Thanks! Why don't you guys put it in the main post as well?
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Re: Hideous Destructor

Postby Matt » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:49 am

OP updated.
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Re: Hideous Destructor

Postby Gollgagh » Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:49 pm

Matt wrote:
This has been resolved, but for the benefit of those who aren't on the Discord: no one else could replicate it and it went away when GooseJelly made a "fresh" folder to try it in.

My primary suspicion is some kind of caching problem on his end that was preventing a corrupted copy of HD from being overwritten correctly.

However, one alternative possibility is that there's something in the ini that could somehow cause this. Can't imagine what though.

I'd like to revisit this:

I can replicate it on HD 4.2.4a with GZDoom 4.2.4 (also GZDoom 4.2.0) on a fresh .ini by setting hd_maglimit to anything higher than 0.

It also happens on the current version of Master.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.2.4a

Postby Matt » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:18 pm

What exactly are you picking up that causes this? (or better yet, can you give a step-by-step breakdown of how to reproduce this?)

EDIT: Nevermind, got it. Will fix in a bit. I'm pretty sure this is a brand new issue not something revisited.


Fixed. For what it's worth, it was only crashing when picking up non-HDMagAmmo items while HDMagAmmo items were working as intended.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.2.4a

Postby Gollgagh » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:07 pm

Awesome, thanks for the quick fix.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.2.4b

Postby Matt » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:03 am

NEW UPDATE!

Highlights for 4.2.4b:
  • Lots of maintenance bugfixes and fixes for new features.
  • Bullet damage recalculated, SMG given some QoL buffs to compensate including a "fireswitch" loadout parameter that lets you skip burst (or use only burst).
  • Jetpack! Code is "jet".
  • New backpack loadout configuration method! After "bak" and before the next unbackpacked item, list the contents separated by periods, e.g. "z66, bak smg. 915 5. hrp, awg"
  • New hd_hudstyle user cvar lets you stick with the mugshot or no mugshot independently of your screenblocks.
  • Removed some old cruft that has long outlived its value.
  • Players are now subject to terminal velocity when falling, and can damage enemies by slamming into them.
  • New Keen lizard baby replacement in Freedoom.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.2.4b

Postby Tartlman » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:16 am

So, an incredibly amusing bug was discovered for 4.2.4b. It's already been patched in the master, but I find that it's so much fun that i'll post how to mess with it here.

1. get 2 pistols and 2 vulcanettes (preferably, the latter is fully loaded)
2. switch both vulcanettes to fuller auto mode
3. drop the pistols and vulcanettes
4. pick up the pistols and then the vulcanettes
5. switch to the pistol and then switch to your backup pistol (you know, the altreload thing)
6. have fun
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.2.4b

Postby Matt » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:06 am

Call for input!


1. Passive mag consolidation between levels

How many people rely on this, or at least find it helpful?
I'm trying not to add a new user cvar to turn it on or off, so if no one actually wants this feature I can get rid of it.


2. Reloading buttons

Are there any issues with how reload/unload are treated, and have there been any inconsistencies or irregularities that have bothered anyone for a while? I'll probably end up doing nothing on this front, but it had occurred to me that sometimes mag-retain versus mag-drop reloads are a bit needlessly finicky to do while under fire.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.2.4b

Postby Tartlman » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:56 am

On the topic of reloading, i find that it's a little odd that the default with reloading the boss is to keep the empty clip, especially considering the point of a clip is, well, that it's a cheap piece of crap that you don't necessarily have to keep
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.2.4b

Postby Caligari87 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:21 am

1. As noted in Discord, I've not relied on this since manual mag repacking got added. Sometimes it's a nice surprise when I go to a new level but otherwise I just do it myself.

2. Reload should not imply unload I mean uh... ahem... Personally I don't have a problem with "tap to drop, hold to retain". Did you have a different paradigm in mind?

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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.2.4b

Postby Matt » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:35 pm

Tartlman wrote:On the topic of reloading, i find that it's a little odd that the default with reloading the boss is to keep the empty clip
Caligari87 wrote:Personally I don't have a problem with "tap to drop, hold to retain".

Based on this I think I'll add a tap-to-drop, hold-to-retain when stripper-clipping the Boss.


My issue with tap-drop-hold-retain is that the risk of accidentally holding under pressure is highest exactly when you need maximum mobility and not to waste time pocketing a mag. It's never clearly caused me to screw up, but it does leave a bit of trepidation every time I reach for the reload key in the middle of a firefight... but then that might not be inappropriate either, nor the notion that someone accidentally performs a more complex action (pocket) than a simpler one (drop) just because they're more used to it.

...... yeah, I think I'll leave it as is.
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