[Release] Waterlab GZD

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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby NachtIntellect » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:23 am

This looks like a really good map, after playing through this I think I just realised what was missing when I try to create semi-realistic maps, enviroment sounds should definitely be a must to create a better atmosphere of the map, I love the sheer beauty and attention to detail this map partakes in, I have to say I am also impressed with the lighting, I've been trying to get that whole balance of light where it should be with accurate lighting but I can never seem to pull it off 100% and I think you have done a really good job, definitely one of my most favorite maps so far.
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby RikohZX » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:14 am

I managed to get all the way to the final battle on UV before the map started pushing my face in hard, but then I got to what I presume was the final wave.
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Enjay » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:55 am

Lot's of very high praise indeed. Thank you very much for your kind comments. It's appreciated.

@RikohZX, it sounds like you were almost there - but not quite. I think that there is quite a step up in pace for the final battle but there's plenty of ammo in the final area and enough powerups (invulnerability is especially useful) to get through. In the early stages I find that strafing around the edge of the battle, avoiding fighting too much and allowing infighting to thin things out is quite a good policy. Doing that can tend to keep you reasonably safe and allow you to save the powerups for later. It's tricky to do but it's actually possible complete the whole fight from start to finish from a pistol start and not take a single point of damage. Of course, it's easier for me because I know who is going to appear and when, and also where all the supplies are and when they are available too.
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby pricetagman » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:37 pm

:twisted: :twisted: Awesome doom mod. It's like a determination and hard work "mod"-ified . :twisted: And i really enjoed interacting with computers too. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: so many secrets. :twisted:
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby DoomKrakken » Wed May 03, 2017 3:03 am

Finally blazed it with Trailblazer. 11/17 secrets found, WOOOOOO!

Now that I've played it, I can now give my two cents...

Holy cow, dude, this was a creepy map. But it was also BEAUTIFUL. :D I was glad there was a lot of warm lighting and calm ambiences, because that helped me keep calm throughout the map.

I found the notorious BFG room. I gotta say, after all that you guys were saying about it, I thought it would be much more disturbing. The walls told me something obviously went down... but I can't say I was deeply disturbed by it. Especially after I picked up the BFG... the resulting battle was too hectic for me to dwell on the topic any further. The red lights that switched on, however, were a nice touch. :D

I think the creepiest part for me, for whatever farfetched reason, was the inclusion of female zombies. I have absolutely no idea why. I've seen those sprites before. I've fought against many a female zombie in several custom maps. I liked that they were there, because it felt a tad bit more realistic and was a nice touch. But, for whatever reason... those specific zombies being in that specific setting... just got under my skin.

Though those slime water elementals... at least the first time I encountered one... that comes in at a close second.

The mood lightened up once the final battle began setting up. Your megasphere was awesome, by the way... ;)

All in all, 10/10 would blaze it again. :D
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Enjay » Wed May 03, 2017 3:39 pm

Again, thanks very much. I'm glad you enjoyed it (sorry I missed your message pricetagman - I'm glad you enjoyed it too). Interesting comment about the female zombies. I mostly did it simply because I thought it made sense. I didn't expect it to have that effect. Interesting.

I also appreciate you comment about "warm lighting and calm ambiences". I personally feel that dark and ominous areas work best if there are also light and calmer areas in the map too. That way, the dark seems so much darker versus the lighter areas. I've always considered that a bit of a problem in Doom3. It was so dark so much of the time (especially in the original release) that the threat of the darkness lost its... well, its threat. With a few more light areas, having to dive back into the dark would have been so much more scary than simply always being in the dark.
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Rachael » Wed May 03, 2017 4:02 pm

Enjay wrote:I also appreciate you comment about "warm lighting and calm ambiences". I personally feel that dark and ominous areas work best if there are also light and calmer areas in the map too. That way, the dark seems so much darker versus the lighter areas. I've always considered that a bit of a problem in Doom3. It was so dark so much of the time (especially in the original release) that the threat of the darkness lost its... well, its threat.

"There is no light without dark" is more than an old adage. If you properly balance two extremes, they both will have their full effect. I rather liked it, myself. :)
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Zanieon » Sat May 20, 2017 10:50 pm

Okay now i took my entire time to beat this, i loved the BFG secret mood when you run trough there and despite being a bit action heavy the entire theme of the map makes the atmosphere heavy anyway, the same feeling of Doom 3.

Also, in that last room where your sphere is located this is me after picking it up:
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby DoomKrakken » Sun May 21, 2017 12:24 am

Story of my life.

That's me playing Doom. :D
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Enjay » Sun May 21, 2017 5:02 am

Thanks once more. :)

Zanieon wrote:Also, in that last room where your sphere is located this is me after picking it up

:lol:

For what it's worth, it isn't picking up the sphere that triggers what comes next. It's just that things are set up in such a way that it's quite likely that the player will pick up the sphere a few moments before things get really heavy.

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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Gez » Sun May 21, 2017 8:38 am

The first time, I deliberately did not pick the thing, wanting to keep it for later, handled the first wave of teleporting monsters well enough but then quickly died after the doors opened.

Second time I made sure to have a free path to the sphere when the doors started to open.
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Enjay » Sun May 21, 2017 8:55 am

Yes, as you'll know, there are quite a few powerup spawns during the final fight and I try to avoid picking them up them unless I really need them. I find that strategy works really quite well in this fight (and more generally in Doom too of course, especially if the powerup concerned is one that can take you from 1% to over 100%).
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Caligari87 » Sun May 21, 2017 11:03 pm

I finally played this, and I have to say it's one of the most atmospheric and beautiful levels I've seen in a LONG time. So many little things send it over the top, from the ambient sounds to the brightmaps to the oh-so-subtle dynamic lights. A pure work of art.

Unfortunately I'm spending so much time admiring the visuals that I'm getting killed more often than normal :D

8-)
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Jaxxoon R » Mon May 22, 2017 12:31 am

Ah, this is very much my favorite sort of map. I liked how there was a real presence to the environment, the quiet moments between firefights, the subtle use of features for a well-rounded experience, it was loads of fun and very unique.

And I'm not just saying that because you made use of a certain soundpack :wink:
I thought there was something weirdly familiar about some of the sounds, so after playing I had a look at the op and whaddya know. Seems I made them and then forgot entirely.
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Re: [Release] Waterlab GZD

Postby Blue Shadow » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:29 pm

This was enjoyable. I very much like the atmosphere and the ambient sounds and music - they kept me on edge*.

I played and finished it on HMP difficulty:

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It's nice to play some Doom map without being scalded by unforgiving ambushes and traps around every corner.

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