[WIP] S.U.P.E.R Natural: Demo Updated

[grouchbag]

This is a beautiful map.Got lost a lot, enjoyed the creepiness.This is very well done.Keep up the good work!

[Jblade]

Played the demo and if there's one thing that desperately needs fixing... it's that head-bobbing camera that's going up and down too much (it also looks unnatural for "human" movement). It's causing motion sickness for me.

You can type 'movebob' into the console and adjust it to your liking there.

me and agaures stumbled across something in the sewer map, I'm not sure if it's a bug but:

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Once you find the lift to the miltary base, there's no switch or anything to open the door up there. pressing space doesn't activate any messages or anything. I'm not sure if this is a bug or if the sewer map is unexitable in the demo, but just thought I'd let you know incase it was an accident.

[Pyroscourge]

Played the demo and if there's one thing that desperately needs fixing... it's that head-bobbing camera that's going up and down too much (it also looks unnatural for "human" movement). It's causing motion sickness for me.

Like Jblade said, you can change that yourself.

me and agaures stumbled across something in the sewer map, I'm not sure if it's a bug but:

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Once you find the lift to the miltary base, there's no switch or anything to open the door up there. pressing space doesn't activate any messages or anything. I'm not sure if this is a bug or if the sewer map is unexitable in the demo, but just thought I'd let you know incase it was an accident.

Kind of intentional. I had programmed the sewer map to be entered from the Military Base, but changed it to only open once you get the sewer pass. In the demo, it's only meant as a secret map so it doesn't really concern me. Some other exits to the sewer will be open normally, but they haven't been made to work yet.

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On that note, there is a way out of the sewer during the demo, but only if you get help from someone just as lost as you.

[agaures]

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On that note, there is a way out of the sewer during the demo, but only if you get help from someone just as lost as you.

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Lies.

[Pyroscourge]

I've made a working version of the map now, which turned out better than I expected.

(I took this with IDDT activated.)


There's a few issues though, as GZDoom allows a ton of customization to the automap. I don't want to stylize it too much as a lot of people customize their map colours to different things, and I'm not really sure how to implement a compass if you can rotate the automap. Additionally, none of the extra things will come up if you use the overlay map, but none of these things are really big problems.

Regardless, I imagine this is the kind of improvement most people were looking for?

[Ed the Bat]

I scribbled up an ACS-based compass a long time ago, harvesting from radar displays that other modders before me made (standing on the shoulders of giants, eh?). Maybe that would help you out?

[Pyroscourge]

That would be great if I could see it, Ed. I wouldn't even really know where to begin if I did it myself.

[Ed the Bat]

Here you go. It uses a CVAR to toggle it, which you could make a menu option.

[Pyroscourge]

Thanks! I guess I'm the one standing on the shoulders of a giant now. : P

[Ed the Bat]

Surely you don't mean li'l ol' me!

But really, our community would never have become what it is without us working together/upon each other's projects.

[Mav3rick]

that map look great maybe give it few touchs to make it look like is been display on some kind of pda?
about the hud i have some ideas that you may like or not, is very simple no idea if it fit but is nice to try it


1... invontory is well clear: flares, flaslight, armor (maybe to help the player to get more that just 2 hits)
2... info location: where the name of places you visit will be show, as in the lake you visit many places those locations can have a name for future reference
3... compas.. well the compas maybe a simple one like <---N------NW----> if this can be done of course
4... special objects: where key card, or plot items are keep

[Pyroscourge]

Alright, I've increased the size of the text by a small margin. I'm trying not to overdo it, as I like getting as much stuff in that one section of the screen as possible. So a question to those who thought it was too small, is this better?



Previous version for comparison:

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that map look great maybe give it few touchs to make it look like is been display on some kind of pda?
about the hud i have some ideas that you may like or not, is very simple no idea if it fit but is nice to try it

The inventory and special items are already covered in the journal, and it's not like you would ever need to check what you have super-quickly. However, I have added the compass in now, so when I say 'Head North', you actually know where you are going.

[Ed the Bat]

I'd have to see the text in-game to really gauge if it'll work for me, but I have to imagine that any increase in size is an improvement.

[Major Cooke]

...The ducks. I fed them. And I paid the price with giant tentacles.

[Major Cooke]

Also, couple minor nitpicks.

Titlemap: When that "thing" turns into two large pairs of eyes, it's not obscured enough to cover up the very sudden change. Either might want to move the spawner more to the right, or decrease the smoke eyes' size.

EDIT: Okay. You really don't need to be using Delay(1) in your scripts. ESPECIALLY for multiple ones running at the same time. The more important ones, you could get away with like 5 or so, but 1? That's the reason why it's a big bottleneck, especially when coming back on map 1 after grabbing the gas container.