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Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:10 pm
by Project Dark Fox
Good gods, this thread is still alive?

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:34 am
by Matt
There's no "Closed Projects" forum.

Dennis revived this to announce the Cacoward.

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:38 am
by Project Dark Fox
Vaecrius wrote:There's no "Closed Projects" forum.

Dennis revived this to announce the Cacoward.

Maybe so, even though I believe it deserved both Cacowards, I'm still surprised the tread is still alive anyway! :P

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:51 pm
by Phobus
Congratulations to the team for two cacowards :P

We all knew it was going to get a proper one though.

Whilst I'm mentioning the cacowards:

Well done to T667 for his award (and nomination), and contributions to two award winners. Definitely adds a row to the trophy cabinet :lol: I find it quite funny that I had some minor involvement in all of the wads you were involved in that got an award though :P (Testing KDiZD and UTNT, and making one of the CC3 maps). Course, you have to wonder now - what's happening for the future? Guess we'll all have to wait and see.

(as an aside, I'll mention I have quite a swollen head after reading some people saying nice things about my CC3 map :P )

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:33 pm
by Enjay
Well done to the KDiZD team for the awards and, of course, Tormentor for his further recognition.

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:54 pm
by Project Dark Fox
Phobus wrote:(as an aside, I'll mention I have quite a swollen head after reading some people saying nice things about my CC3 map :P )

That swelling in the back of your mind? That's your ego. ;)

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:40 pm
by hnsolo77
Project Dark Fox wrote:
Phobus wrote:(as an aside, I'll mention I have quite a swollen head after reading some people saying nice things about my CC3 map :P )

That swelling in the back of your mind? That's your ego. ;)
or a tumor... but good job on the cacowards guys, i still say KDiZD is the best wad out this year, but then again i never got into the hype in the first place...

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:04 am
by Remmirath
Guys, I've really enjoyed KDiZD, so...

I think that continuing with The Shores of ZDoom and ZDoom Inferno would be a really GREAT idea!

What do you think about?

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:35 am
by Project Dark Fox
Suuuuuure, if it takes another three years or so to finish the next episode... ;)

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:40 am
by Remmirath
Project Dark Fox wrote:Suuuuuure, if it takes another three years or so to finish the next episode... ;)


Yeah, you're right :lol:

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:52 am
by Enjay
Yeah, I know, bump.

I just wanted to post because I played right through KDiZD for the first time in a while yesterday with the latest GZdoom (1.0.30) and, despite some problems with GZdoom itself, I was reminded just how fekkin' awesome KDiZD is. Now that all the furore has died down and it's just another mod, I'd almost forgotten just how good it is. Everything about it is quality. Everywhere you look there is something to catch your eye and for you to marvel at. Sometimes it is lots of detail - and that's fine by me. At other times it's realistic, or just well considered. There was an area where I went through a hole in a wall and I just stopped and looked at it for a while. The area couldn't have been much bigger than 192x192 units but it was made just perfectly. The broken wall was the right width, not just some generic 32 units wide. The slopes and textures in the cavity beyond the hole created a believable representation of a rocky blast hole and the way it dropped down into the next area using slopes was just right.

The maps are great fun. I think my favourite may be Z1M3 (but it is a close call with a number of other maps fighting for the honour). I just love those mines. I don't really know why because I still get lost every time I play it (which I have done many times) and that would normally frustrate the hell out of me but somehow it's OK in KDiZD. The mines just look great and are so atmospheric. I love the way that, in all the maps, triangles have been used to make natural looking terrain slopes with no obvious seams or lips. I'd never even considered that before. And the base section of Z1M8, where the influence of hell really breaks through with the changing walls, sky and architecture, accompanied by all those creepy sounds is nothing short of genius.

Anyway, enough of this sycophant-ism, but I just felt the need to post. :P

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:13 am
by hnsolo77
i agree with you on those points, especially Z1M8's perfect execution

though i must admit im not exactly a fan of Z1M4 but then again i hated E1M4 in the first place...

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:22 pm
by SoulCrow
Yes I know what you mean. You play through it once and complete it, and then you leave that particular mod for a good few weeks or months. But then you play through it again later, and realize just how fun it was the first time... and that it will keep you entertained for ages afterwards as well.

Must be kinda annoying, working on something for 3 years or so, and then, only a few weeks after it's release, nobody talks about it anymore. It's when you go back and play those mods again that you realize how much effort was put into them.

...and whenever I go back and play through your (Enjay) Trial of the Arch-Heretic, I feel excited enough to play through Thief again once more. A combination of the sound effects and textures used works every single time.

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:47 pm
by TheDarkArchon
Enjay wrote: There was an area where I went through a hole in a wall and I just stopped and looked at it for a while. The area couldn't have been much bigger than 192x192 units but it was made just perfectly. The broken wall was the right width, not just some generic 32 units wide. The slopes and textures in the cavity beyond the hole created a believable representation of a rocky blast hole and the way it dropped down into the next area using slopes was just right.



This isn't just any hole in a wall: It's an expertly crafted, finely exploded hole in the wall created with the most exotic foreign explosives and tangy nodes.

This isn't just any terrain. This is KDiZD terrain.

I couldn't resist :P

Re: [Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:18 pm
by Zatos
I don't know if this is a bug or what... but when I get to the exit on Z1M7 and kill the grey HellKnight (not sure what their names are)... well... nothing happens. The green door with the exit sign above it doesn't open. Shows on the map as a red door, and obviously I have all keys which you need to get to this point. Am I missing something or is this a bug?